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re: HEADLINE: As Russia retakes Kursk, Ukrainians ask, 'Was it worth it?'
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:25 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:25 pm to Auburn1968
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Putin will also have to keep real troops in Kursk to protect its border now. No more minimally trained conscripts.
Unless he wants to bait them again...
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Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:30 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Yes. Read the Jefferson quote above.
You realize once the world became smaller, Jefferson would have adapted?
He wasn't God. He sent the marines to Tripoli, he adapted.
Note: He sent the USMC to Tripoli 4 years after your quote.
China will use soft and hard power to cut off our markets. Jefferson would have modified his actions to fit the situation.
This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:54 pm to Narax
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He wasn't God. He sent the marines to Tripoli, he adapted.
Note: He sent the USMC to Tripoli 4 years after your quote.
So? Nothing Jefferson did in battling piracy in the high seas is at odds with Jefferson’s maxim on foreign policy. Jefferson wasn’t a pacifist and was indeed an advocate for a strong naval presence to protect U.S. shipping interests.
This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:56 pm to Auburn1968
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No more minimally trained conscripts.
The problem here is Ukraine is running out of conscripts period.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 10:01 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Made as much sense as Hitler attacking Stalingrad.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 10:11 pm to Auburn1968
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Putin will also have to keep real troops in Kursk to protect its border now. No more minimally trained conscripts.
Not to be rude, but that’s laughable. The only way Putin would have to maintain strong forces in the Kursk sector is if Ukraine still possessed a sufficiently strong force to threaten it. Ukraine no longer possesses such force there. Nor do they have the reserves to try another ill advised, foolhardy “offensive”, if you can even categorize the Kursk push as such.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 10:15 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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So? Nothing Jefferson did in battling piracy in the high seas is at odds with Jefferson’s maxim on foreign policy. Jefferson wasn’t a pacifist and was indeed an advocate for a strong naval presence to protect U.S. shipping interests.
Jefferson did a land invasion...
But you are arguing that we don't protect our trade interests.
Those ports stay open through diplomacy, that requires money.
Not in a stupid Joe Biden give them everything and expect nothing.
But diplomacy requires investment.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:13 am to Narax
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But you are arguing that we don't protect our trade interests.
I have never argued — nor implied — any such thing. My argument is simple to understand and I have expressed it succinctly above with a modicum of words.
Yet here it is again: foreign aid — like all wealth redistribution schemes — often perversely undermines it’s own stated objectives. That both Palestine and Israel are the recipients of U.S. foreign aid is a case in point.
The aid given to “relief’ organizations in Gaza has long been suspected of being used as a sieve to fund terrorism: UNRWA confirms terrorist who led Re’im shelter massacre was a staffer… Foreign aid thus counterproductively undermines the security of the United States and Israel itself.
My opposition to foreign aid is wholly consistent with the principles of limited government and — again — it is a testament to years of an insidious indoctrination campaign that any “conservative” supports these foreign aid schemes that undermines the security of both the United States and it’s allies. Since I am repeating myself here, you may have the last word if you so choose.
UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA): Background and U.S. Funding Trend…
www.aljazeera.com
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 3/23/25 at 9:36 am to Toomer Deplorable
I think we are quite a bit closer than I had first thought.
We both detest what foreign aid currently is, but are not opposed to it as a tool of state with the explicit goal of supporting friendly nations and encouraging their trade and alliance.
Aid for the purpose of aid alone is not helpful.
There is a large difference between America's swooping in during a famine and handing out bread and rice from cases marked America.
And the shite we have now where we perpetually feed those unwilling to grow anything more than their own population, not to mention giving them wants like cellphones.
The first as a one time offering of good will when others are dying in large numbers can be seen as positive advertising on behalf of America.
The second has led to nothing good for America.
We both detest what foreign aid currently is, but are not opposed to it as a tool of state with the explicit goal of supporting friendly nations and encouraging their trade and alliance.
Aid for the purpose of aid alone is not helpful.
There is a large difference between America's swooping in during a famine and handing out bread and rice from cases marked America.
And the shite we have now where we perpetually feed those unwilling to grow anything more than their own population, not to mention giving them wants like cellphones.
The first as a one time offering of good will when others are dying in large numbers can be seen as positive advertising on behalf of America.
The second has led to nothing good for America.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:12 am to Narax
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We are talking about other countries.
Do you think the United States should not compete with other world powers (namely China) for the support of other nations?
If the only people allowed to vote in the 2024 general election were Jews, Kamala Harris would have carried every state.
Let that sink in.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:57 am to Stinger_1066
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If the only people allowed to vote in the 2024 general election were Jews, Kamala Harris would have carried every state.
... African Americans were probably similar
https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-shows-israelis-massively-favor-trump-over-harris-in-us-election/
Israelis though were MAGA
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Israelis massively favor Republican Donald Trump over Democrat Kamala Harris in the upcoming US presidential elections, according to a poll published Monday.
When asked who they preferred as the next US president, 66 percent chose the former president, while only 17% said they wanted to see the US vice president win the election. A further 17% said they did not know.
There is a reason American Jews aren't in Israel.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:59 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Well, since Israel has been the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid, any knowledgeable discussion on the matter will necessarily involve mention of that fact.
Without US military funding and security, Israel wouldn’t exist. But wait, neither would most of Europe. The US funds, unfortunately, almost the entire defenses of all western style countries plus some that are not. Israel is just one of many on the US tit.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 11:15 am to Goforit
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Hitler attacking Stalingrad.
If the Battle of Stalingrad was — to paraphrase Churchill —- the end of the beginning for Hitler’s imperial ambitions in Eastern Europe — the Battle of Kursk was the beginning of the end for Hitler’s Empire.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 11:57 am to CDawson
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Without US military funding and security, Israel wouldn’t exist.
Israel is just one of many on the US tit.
I wholeheartedly agree with your closing point yet I disagree with your initial point that Israel would cease to exist without U.S. foreign aid. Though a small nation surrounded by enemies, Israel is a nuclear armed power which has repeatedly demonstrated that it’s armed forces are perhaps the best trained and most efficient fighting force in the region, if not the entire world.
Israel further is a wealthy and prosperous nation with a generous welfare state and by far has the highest standard of living in the region. Indeed, Israel’s standard of living rivals — and indeed exceeds — the living standards of many European nations.
My argument is that the duplicitous foreign policy objectives of the United States in the Middle East have in many ways have served as an obstacle to Israel’s security. As Ron Paul has so eloquently expressed, the foreign policy objectives of the United States often undermine Israel’s sovereignty:
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“ …We interfere with them when they deal with their borders, when they want to have peace treaties, we tell them what they can do because we buy their allegiance and they sacrifice their sovereignty to us. Then they decide they want to bomb something, that’s their business…When they bombed the Iraqi nuclear site back in the eighties I was one of the few in Congress who said it’s none of our business…”
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 3/23/25 at 6:42 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Ukraine was the dog that caught the car…
They found out they didn’t want to catch the car
They found out they didn’t want to catch the car
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