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Have the Weinsteins lost their minds or have they always been like this?

Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4086 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:52 pm
I was initially someone who enjoyed listening to the Weinstein brothers, and to a lesser extent Bret’s wife Heather, muse about the social world, universities, problems with peer review, etc. As of late, however, it seems like to me they’ve crossed over some boundaries that don’t quite fit with the people I thought I understood well. It’s also possible I’ve just soured on them. I am curious if anyone things similar or different.

A few examples here are the following:

1. Eric seems to think he is going to be whacked like Epstein or McAffee.

2. Eric is currently seeking lawyers who can help him get The Portal podcast back online. It’s not offline, and he insinuates big tech is somehow stopping him because he apparently wants to feign that they think he is some sort of major threat to them.

3. Bret and Heather have been pushing ivermectin as a covid treatment and preventative l and making fools of themselves while doing it. Now, you may think it works and it may yet do so, but the evidence they cite is almost entirely either shite or now retracted. They’ve also underscores just how very little they understand about data, research design, and meta-analyses among other things.

4. Similarly, they claimed they would write a rebuttal to the criticism of their claims and that’s yet to materialize after a couple weeks. Either it’s the same writer’s block that landed them at Evergreen in the first place or they have nothing real to say. Having an OBGYN on your show who is actively campaigning to get ivermectin labeled in the UK is probably not the best voice of reason or source of backup. Why not get an unaffiliated data scientist or statistical virologist on to examine things instead?

I tried to initially dismiss things like the Nobel prize claim (that Eric eventually implied he, Bret, and Eric’s wife all deserved one although none of them have published any notable work to speak of), Bret’s ridiculous perception that he is in the same league as Richard Dawkins, and the fact that the whole reason we know these people may be based on something quite exaggerated (that mythical day or absence at Evergreen). I thought those were quirks but they seem to be features and not bugs. Eric also acted really weird the last time he was on Rogan. He indicated that too guitarists call him all the time because they are just that impressed with his virtuoso Twitter videos. I am near expecting him to soon claim he invented the question mark or standing in line, but of course some cabal conspiracy in academic kept him from getting the credit he deserved.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:00 pm to
Eric is bat shite crazy.

Bret pushing a drug he feels confident would work while showing OBVIOUS reasons why it's not getting accepted by phrama and the government isn't crazy in the least.

They are both a bit narcissistic
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9345 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:01 pm to
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Bret pushing a drug he feels confident would work while showing OBVIOUS reasons why it's not getting accepted by phrama and the government isn't crazy in the least.



This is the way
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:07 pm to
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If I'm not sailin' I'm trollin'

Are you sailin' by chance right now?
Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4086 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:16 pm to
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Are you sailin' by chance right now?


I’m really just curious what people think.
Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4086 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:18 pm to
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Bret pushing a drug he feels confident would work while showing OBVIOUS reasons why it's not getting accepted by phrama and the government isn't crazy in the least.


I don’t think someone’s feelings should be the reason anyone should take a drug for off label use. If, after a discussion with a doctor and a prescription, someone wants to try it that’s their choice. My issue is more with the data and less with the idea that the entire medical, scientific, pharma, and government communities broadly defined are in on keeping ivermectin down.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:20 pm to
Eric Weinstein has gone off the deep end, and I suspect has some underlying psychiatric pathology.

Bret is just wrong, and has dug his heels in so deeply he can't admit he was wrong. At this point he's staked his entire public reputation on being the correct dissenting voice regarding COVID19.

I like Bret, he is good at what he does for the most part, but he's just wrong here. The data he cites for Ivermectin is dogshit, and more and more looking like well funded dogshit by propagandists.
Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4086 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:23 pm to
Glad to see I am not the only one trending this way.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20117 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:05 pm to
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1. Eric seems to think he is going to be whacked like Epstein or McAffee.


Eric is narcissistic for sure, but his intuition about Epstein being a character created by well funded covert actors seems highly likely to me. And if that’s the case, I would be nervous if I had personal insights into the scam, which Eric does have based on his interaction with Epstein.

I’ve never heard Eric seriously maintain that he is on a hit list. You seem to be exaggerating here.

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2. Eric is currently seeking lawyers who can help him get The Portal podcast back online. It’s not offline, and he insinuates big tech is somehow stopping him because he apparently wants to feign that they think he is some sort of major threat to them.


He does display a bit of excessive self-importance regarding his podcast, and indeed, all of his works. He may not be individually and singly targeted by Big Tech, but make no mistake that he is being targeted in all the ways that Big Tech targets non-conforming voices. He IS “the founder” of the “intellectual dark web”. As much as those words are intended as hyperbole, they alone strike fear in the dem/progressive/woke complex. Plus, he’s indeed very smart and a clever wordsmith who can defuse their doublespeak narratives.

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3. Bret and Heather have been pushing ivermectin as a covid treatment and preventative l and making fools of themselves while doing it. Now, you may think it works and it may yet do so, but the evidence they cite is almost entirely either shite or now retracted. They’ve also underscores just how very little they understand about data, research design, and meta-analyses among other things.

4. Similarly, they claimed they would write a rebuttal to the criticism of their claims and that’s yet to materialize after a couple weeks. Either it’s the same writer’s block that landed them at Evergreen in the first place or they have nothing real to say. Having an OBGYN on your show who is actively campaigning to get ivermectin labeled in the UK is probably not the best voice of reason or source of backup. Why not get an unaffiliated data scientist or statistical virologist on to examine things instead?


They’ve addressed the Collette article in specific detail on their podcast and the points they made are much more convincing than the points made in the article. I don’t claim to know anything about the science here, but their criticism of the accepted narrative that doesn’t allow for discussion or dissent is spot on. I don’t even think they ARE pushing Ivermectin, just that the off label use of the drug is probably safe and should be researched. At the same time that any mention of Ivermectin is squelched, any discussion of the adverse effects of the vaccines is also squelched.

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I tried to initially dismiss things like the Nobel prize claim (that Eric eventually implied he, Bret, and Eric’s wife all deserved one although none of them have published any notable work to speak of), Bret’s ridiculous perception that he is in the same league as Richard Dawkins,


You seem to be trying to create your own narrative here to smear them. I don’t know what level of discovery deserves the Nobel, but Brett’s work on telomeres seemed pretty significant. I think it’s only been Eric who has been talking up Brett’s accomplishment (as well as his own potential).

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and the fact that the whole reason we know these people may be based on something quite exaggerated (that mythical day or absence at Evergreen).


You’re tipping your hand here. Do you really think that incident was exaggerated? Remember that it happened prior to the summer of riots in 2020. It was pretty damn significant, and had reverberations throughout the woke landscape, and it was one more example to the non-woke of what a shite-show this new ideology had become and how far it had advanced.
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