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Gotta love the propagandists at the NYT - global warming related

Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:58 am
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:58 am
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The E.P.A. rule, announced by President Obama on June 2, is aimed at slashing carbon emissions from coal-fired power plants, the nation’s largest source of planet-warming pollution. Under the rule, each state would have to design and submit a plan to cut carbon pollution, which must then be approved by the E.P.A. (emphasis added)


Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:00 am to
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The E.P.A. rule, announced by President Obama on June 2, is aimed at slashing carbon emissions from coal-fired power plants, the nation’s largest source of planet-warming pollution.


Isn't it?

Are you saying automobiles put out more? Maybe you're right. SHow us numbers.
Posted by fleaux
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Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:02 am to
Dont you think they should have a viable alternative before they destroy our main power producing industry ?? Make sense to you?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98453 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:02 am to
"planet warming pollution"

That's what was funny ST
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 9:23 am
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:02 am to
what is the roll-on-floor propaganda?

Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:05 am to
I fail to see the propaganda.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Dont you think they should have a viable alternative before they destroy our main power producing industry
Since I don't know what the actual rule is I don't know.

At least if we have a rule we can have a legit complaint that Obama has "destroyed the coal industry," versus today when the reality is that cheap natural gas is destroying coal.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:09 am to
quote:

The E.P.A. rule, announced by President Obama on June 2, is aimed at slashing carbon emissions from coal-fired power plants, the nation’s largest source of planet-warming pollution.


Isn't it?

Are you saying automobiles put out more? Maybe you're right. SHow us numbers.



I thought it was farting cows.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:09 am to
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I fail to see the propaganda.

same here, he earned his downvote.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:11 am to
NYT;dr
Posted by twh318
Member since Dec 2011
493 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:32 am to
There is an alternative. Natural gas power plants.
Posted by member12
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:56 am to
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The agency wants to release the final rule under the terms of the Clean Air Act, which requires the federal government to regulate all substances defined as pollutants. The E.P.A. determined in 2009 that carbon dioxide met the definition of a pollutant, a decision that has withstood numerous legal challenges.


I wish they'd regulate your breathing. As a citizen of the world and a consumer of agricultural products, you are a "polluter" according to the EPA. I for one believe that you must be stopped immmediately before you cause the sky to fall.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112406 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:56 am to
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There is an alternative. Natural gas power plants.


We should use both. Natural gas can be exported more cheaply than coal and help our balance of trade. There is no downside to using both since:

a. Global warming does not exist.
b. The US =/= the Globe
c. It would increase Business Confidence and release pent up capital for expansion and economic recovery.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:01 pm to
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the nation’s largest source of planet-warming pollution.


Isn't it?

Are you saying automobiles put out more? Maybe you're right. SHow us numbers.


actually it would be water vapor. Which would mean the largest producer of this "pollution" would be farmers, then citizens.

FAIL, fake scientist.
Posted by twh318
Member since Dec 2011
493 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:11 pm to
I'm not saying coal shouldn't be used. I was simply pointing out that coal isn't the only source for the production of electricity. Some power plants are even being converted to natural gas due to government regulations.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:15 pm to
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Some power plants are even being converted to natural gas due to cheap, abundant natural gas.


FIFY.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:18 pm to
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Natural gas can be exported more cheaply than coal


I've never heard that...do you have a link to anything about export costs?
Posted by twh318
Member since Dec 2011
493 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:19 pm to
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FIFY


No. Just no.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112406 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Some power plants are even being converted to natural gas due to cheap, abundant natural gas. FIFY.


And that would be a lie. They are converting due to EPA regulations. Coal is very cheap if you get the govt out of the way.
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2576 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:31 pm to
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planet-warming pollution.


People who make up terms like this as if industry standard term make me more mad than people who over use (and usually incorrectly use) buzz words in order to make themselves sound smarter.

No one in any industry uses the term planet-warming pollution, this is just the Obama marketing team making coal sound scary. Side note, the Obama Marketing team are geniuses.
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