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Good article explaining why the GAO report is a nothingberder

Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:09 am
Posted by PhDoogan
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:09 am
It concisely sums up many of the points posters have made in the boomtown "BOMBSHELL" thread why the GAO is meaningless:

A. Admin has no obligation to release allocated funds by any given date other than by last day of budget cycle

B. Money was in fact released by deadline = no violation.

C. Even if there were a violation, it's a civil offense and certainly not a high crime or misdemeanor

D. A remedy is contained in the Impoundment Control Act (ICA) to sue to force the administration to release the funds

The Right Scoop linking to Ed Morrisey piece

And as many have noted, violations of the ICA have been routine in past presidencies. So to the extent that there was any violation of this highly technical administrative law (which appears unlikely), citing it as a basis for impeachment and removal from office will ensure the impeachment and removal of every president to come.

Congrats dims & MSM, y'all went full tard on this one.

Posted by Walkthedawg
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Posted by Walkthedawg
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:14 am to
Draining the swamp is going to take another 12 years
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:23 am to
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Congrats dims & MSM, y'all went full tard on this one.

Just this one?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:28 am to
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Good article explaining why the GAO report is a nothingberder


If the GAO was an actual accountability office, they would have burnt this country to the ground a long, long time ago...
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:35 am to
A question for those that know.
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C. Even if there were a violation, it's a civil offense and certainly not a high crime or misdemeanor

If we were to go off of the assumption that it falls under the category of a high crime or misdemeanor....
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D. A remedy is contained in the Impoundment Control Act (ICA) to sue to force the administration to release the funds

Wouldn't the fact that this remedy is already in place require the suit to happen & be successful, then still be ignored, in order for it to even qualify as a true violation.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:11 am to
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Wouldn't the fact that this remedy is already in place require the suit to happen & be successful, then still be ignored, in order for it to even qualify as a true violation.


Yes. The GAO's conclusion further overlooks that the civil remedy is only available after the administration decides that it is not going to spend the money, sends a special message to congress withing 15 days of that decision. No such decision was ever reached, since the money was release in full within the deadline.

Even had congress wanted to have brought such a civil suit, it could only done so after the Comptroller General determined there was a basis for doing so, and then only after 25 days of continuous congressional session.

The only way I could ever see this coming anywhere near criminal would be if congress successfully sued the admin which thereafter refused to comply with a lawful judgment (i.e. contempt of court).

So there are layers upon layers of reasons that the GAO's conclusion that the ICA was violated is not only misleading and premature, the GAO is simply wrong.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:15 am to
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Even if there were a violation, it's a civil offense and certainly not a high crime or misdemeanor


Probably best way to explain it is it is akin to an audit finding...
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:18 am to
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Probably best way to explain it is it is akin to an audit finding...


Perhaps an audit finding made by you, and not the IRS, in time to correct your books before April 15.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 10:42 am to
This is much ado about nothing. The monies were disbursed before the budget cycle. This is just about ginning up faux outrage. Also to innoculate Biden for the campaign because he is problematic with his gaffes.
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