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re: Global warming question for both sides....
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:07 pm to Upperaltiger06
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:07 pm to Upperaltiger06
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What journal is this?
What journal?
NOAA's National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)
It is the source every journal cites!
Do you need further specification?
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:09 pm to GeeOH
This fricking thread 
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Please Continue
This fricking thread
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:17 pm to NC_Tigah
It's just a glorious combination of liberal arrogance and scientific ignorance.
I've never been able to decide what is more laughable, blindly believing in the largely politically driven "man is causing climate change" narrative or actually questioning climate change altogether.
I tend to lean toward the liberal political narrative since they by and large know exactly what they are doing. The other is just(mostly) unintentional ignorance or a misunderstanding a conservative talking points.
I've never been able to decide what is more laughable, blindly believing in the largely politically driven "man is causing climate change" narrative or actually questioning climate change altogether.
I tend to lean toward the liberal political narrative since they by and large know exactly what they are doing. The other is just(mostly) unintentional ignorance or a misunderstanding a conservative talking points.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:18 pm to Upperaltiger06
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Where do you think that CO2 goes? It's changing the atmospheric composition.
Is the change in long term climate directly related to an increase in CO2 or is the increase in CO2 independent from the changes?
Further, how do you know that the solar output is exactly the same over centuries? How do you know that earthly events such as earthquakes, volcanoes, and jet streams shifting having caused the changes you attribute to gasses in the atmosphere?
Even if you can claim to account for solar output along centuries of dubious data, account for earthly events, and account for jet streams can you account for the natural climate changes of the past completely independent of the 'polluting people' such as the climate warming period in the early European renaissance?
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:24 pm to MagicCityBlazer
quote:Nostradamus predicts:
s the change in long term climate directly related to an increase in CO2 or is the increase in CO2 independent from the changes?
There will be no answer.
quote:Nostradamus predicts:
how do you know that the solar output is exactly the same over centuries?
There will be no answer.
quote:Nostradamus predicts:
How do you know that earthly events such as earthquakes, volcanoes, and jet streams shifting having caused the changes you attribute to gasses in the atmosphere?
There will be no answer.
quote:Nostradamus predicts:
can you account for the natural climate changes of the past completely independent of the 'polluting people' such as the climate warming period in the early European renaissance?
There will be no answer.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:28 pm to MagicCityBlazer
8 trillion tons of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere annually from the burning of fossil fuels......by humans. That's all I am saying.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:31 pm to Upperaltiger06
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8 trillion tons of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere annually from the burning of fossil fuels......by humans. That's all I am saying.
Your correlation = causation fallacy will not become more true merely by repeating it.
The earth's temperature is rising, but not nearly at the exaggerated rate many want us to believe. It also ignores the cyclical climate change our planet and always experienced, as well as the fact that the earth has been much hotter than it is not multiple times in just the last few million years.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:31 pm to Upperaltiger06
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8 trillion tons of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere annually from the burning of fossil fuels......by humans. That's all I am saying.
Okay
How do you get from that to anthropomorphic global warming besides a nonscientific downplaying of relevant variables?
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:33 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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Further, how do you know that the solar output is exactly the same over centuries? How do you know that earthly events such as earthquakes, volcanoes, and jet streams shifting having caused the changes you attribute to gasses in the atmosphere?
He can't "know" these things, because both are false.
The sun's output is not constant, and we know for a fact natural phenomena alter weather patterns.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:40 pm to Roger Klarvin
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He can't "know" these things, because both are false.
Shhh!
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and we know for a fact natural phenomena alter weather patterns.
Gosh danged man, you couldn't trap a rabbit with a bag full of carrots.
It was a ruse to see if he would posit that opinion so I could then destroy it.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:40 pm to Upperaltiger06
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8 trillion tons of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere annually from the burning of fossil fuels......by humans. That's all I am saying.
why don't you tell us how many tons of CO2 are emitted naturally into the atmosphere annually
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:55 pm to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Introducing more carbon (that has been inert underground) to the natural carbon cycle would make a difference in my estimation. All of this is speculative on my part.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:57 pm to Upperaltiger06
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All of this is speculative on my part.
No shite
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:06 pm to Roger Klarvin
I was being sarcastic. It's common sense and widely accepted by climate scientists.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:07 pm to Upperaltiger06
quote:
All of this is speculative on my part.
dope. 
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:10 pm to Upperaltiger06
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It's common sense
So common in fact that most Americans including yourself don't understand it.
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and widely accepted by climate scientists.
You mean widely accepted by the scientists questioned in the biased surveys. There are A LOT of scientists in relevant fields who scoff at the idea that we can control global warming significantly.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:11 pm to Roger Klarvin
What don't I understand?
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:14 pm to GeeOH
I'll simplify it down for the idiots here, lock yourself in a closed garage and leave your vehicle running. See how long you will last.
Thus why I laugh when I here the extreme right bringing up "well in 1900 the temperature was was this and that".
Thus why I laugh when I here the extreme right bringing up "well in 1900 the temperature was was this and that".
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:14 pm to Upperaltiger06
Apparently, how the carbon cycle works.
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