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George Soros got his money's worth on the NN issue.

Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:25 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:25 pm
Several years ago, the push for net neutrality started in political action commitees. They had friends in the last administration, and sold the idea that the freemarket is no good and government is the only option to protect the people.

It's the same damn argument progressives make with nearly any industry, and it's usually fought against by people who think that government doesn't have all the answers. In this case though, even so-called libertarians are throwing trust in markets out the window to fight a smaller boogeyman. They are afraid of a business getting power, and don't give a shite about giving the government even more power. They forget about what government does with the power we give them EVERY frickING TIME.

Yet again to break it down…

Goverment intervened in the market. The market is skewed and not free. The progs say "see, the free market doesn't work! We need government!" And so, government becomes the solution to a government created problem… only this time the people who normally have their heads on straight have lost their damn minds and have jumped on the government train.


NN got stripped out of the FCC, but Soros is smiling anyway. He is winning the marketing battle.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 10:27 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:27 pm to
He's winning because they have found the way to manipulate the millenials with echo chambers and a drum beat repetition.

Whatch what they post, copy it, put it in Google. Then be afraid of how stupid they are for being literal parrots.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41700 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:54 pm to
This is what it boils down to: government control or market control. The younger crowd is always woo'd by promises of provision and safety by the government, as if those corrupt politicians and life-long g-men can be trusted.
Posted by culsutiger
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:07 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/3/18 at 11:29 pm
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Member since Sep 2004
10405 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:17 am to
The government is using law to make the net free to everyone currently.

You want the government to make a new law that makes you spend money for what you currently have now for free?
Posted by SoulGlo
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:20 am to
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The government is using law to make the net free to everyone currently.


Wut?


quote:

You want the government to make a new law that makes you spend money for what you currently have now for free?





Posted by cave canem
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:55 am to
Yet another thread bookedmarked to share when the so called conservatives whine about the outcome of this.

The fact that the same folks who constantly whine about media bias think turning net traffic over to giant media companies is a good idea boggles the mind.

If you have AT&T you will be giving CNN the power to decide what and when you can watch, read, or discuss whatever they like.

I have in general learned one thing, whatever a bill is called in congress means it does the exact opposite, no matter which party is calling the tune.

Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 5:41 am to
It's mind boggling how this board has turned into a Soros echo army.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/23/17 at 6:34 am to
There are otherwise sane and thoughtful posters here pushing this NN bullshite. It's mind-boggling.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:18 am to
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The fact that the same folks who constantly whine about media bias think turning net traffic over to giant media companies is a good idea boggles the mind


You should pay closer attention then. Because the media IS biased and and yet, which side occasionally bitches in favor of the fairness doctrine? Yup. Liberals.

Theoretically, the fairness doctrine should HELP conservatives yet, we are consistent in our recognition of how bad an idea it is.

So. You really shouldn't be surprised at all now using your frame of reference
This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 7:40 am
Posted by SoulGlo
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:34 am to
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Yet another thread bookedmarked to share when the so called conservatives whine about the outcome of this.


Which is what, exactly?

quote:


If you have AT&T you will be giving CNN the power to decide what and when you can watch


Oh. Hahaha. I don't have AT&T.


quote:

whatever a bill is called in congress means it does the exact opposite, no matter which party is calling the tune. 



YES!! !! This has never had anything to do with pockets or 1s and 0s. It has always had everything to do with government getting their hands on the internet.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:37 am to
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It's mind boggling how this board has turned into a Soros echo army.


I'll bet that most of the posters don't know or remember that this subject first came up as an agenda item of the TIDES Foundation and Open Society. Now, they have bought the whole "packets" line so hard that the hook is all the way down their throat.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:41 am to
Now they are running through downvoting everything like Trumpkins did in the primaries

No refutation or addressing of where the NN push came from and why… just "muh packets!!"
This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 10:43 am
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:43 am to
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Whatch what they post, copy it, put it in Google. Then be afraid of how stupid they are for being literal parrots.



irony
Posted by SoulGlo
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Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

The fact that the same folks who constantly whine about media bias think turning net traffic over to giant media companies is a good idea boggles the mind.



No, it's always been in thr hands of private industry. People want to turn it over to the hands of government, which has consistently proven to be untrustworthy.
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