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Fun fact: There are 31 presidential emergency declarations still in effect

Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:44 pm
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In fact, the very 1st one issued by Jimmy Carter way back in 1979 is still plugging away.
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President Bill Clinton was the most prolific user of national emergencies. He declared 18 during his presidency

And there is this one, that no one raised a peep about.
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• Proclamation 8443 - Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic - Barack Obama

Which waived statutes, shifted funding, and similar things that people are bitching about today. All in the name of protecting US citizens from harm. Same as TheDonald did.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51046 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:45 pm to
yeah but orange man bad
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19805 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:49 pm to
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• Proclamation 8443 - Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic - Barack Obama

Which waived statutes, shifted funding, and similar things that people are bitching about today. All in the name of protecting US citizens from harm. Same as TheDonald did.



Interesting, esp given the Obama admins tack of transferring wealth. Where did these funds go? Is there any creditable accounting info? My guess, lots of funds to community organizer types.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:51 pm to
Boosie says this doesn't matter.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:03 pm to
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There are 31 presidential emergency declarations still in effect
And about 90% of them do NOT deal with "emergencies" and should have been subject to the normal legislative process.

Believe it or not, the National Emergencies Act of 1976 was an initial effort to CURTAIL presidential power to declare and maintain states of "emergency." There was near-consensus that Presidents had been abusing that power.

Congress needs to take a hard look at the NEA as it now exists and (IMHO) tighten the restrictions upon presidential power.

How?

For a start, the power to declare an "Emergency" might be limited to specific short-term scenarios (e.g. foreign attack) that CANNOT be addressed by Congressional action. As an example, the sale of "conflict" diamonds from Sierra Leone is NOT an "emergency," despite Bush-43's declaration to the contrary. If we have a problem with those sales, Congress can pass legislation.

Presidential declarations might be limited to VERY short term periods, absent legislative approval ... rather like a judicial Temporary Restraining Order (e.g. 14 day limit). If it is an ACTUAL "emergency," Congress can get the lead out. IF they do not do so, it probably was not ACTUALLY an "emergency."

Declarations might be subject to an absolute limit on length of time during which they can have effect (e.g. 60- or 90-day limits).

The very idea of using (definitionally short-term) "emergency" powers to implement PERMANENT solutions (whether a border wall or some equally-crazy gun control measure) is antithetical to the concept of Congressional oversight of the Executive branch.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:04 pm to
Thanks Liberal Hank
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:06 pm to
The fricking democrat party is the national emergency but trump couldn’t say that.

The shite they put in that bill/wanted to shows a complete disregard for this country
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:07 pm to
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(e.g. foreign attack)

or say, multiple caravans organized by people not friendly to American interests?

That's like a bigger attack than Russians buying ads during an election, one would think?
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