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Former school bus driver admits to raping 14-year-old, gets no jail time

Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:08 am
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:08 am
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A former school bus driver who pleaded guilty to raping a 14-year-old girl who rode his bus got off without jail time Thursday, to the chagrin of the girl's mother, according to WWNY-TV.

The bus driver, 25-year-old Shane Piche of Watertown, New York, was sentenced to 10 years of probation and ordered to register as a Level 1 sex offender, the lowest classification reserved for those considered to be at a "low risk" of committing a sex crime in the future.

Although he pleaded guilty to third-degree rape, he had also been charged with endangering the welfare of a child for giving her alcohol, and first-degree unlawfully dealing with a child.

"I wish Shane Piche would have received time in jail for the harm he caused to my child," said the victim's mother in a statement to WWNY. "He took something from my daughter she will never get back and has caused her to struggle with depression and anxiety."

Piche's defense attorney, Eric Swartz, told WWNY that he felt the punishment was sufficient for his client's crime.

"He'll be a felon for the rest of his life," Swartz said. "He's on the sex offender registry for a long time. Maybe not the rest of his life because of the level but this isn't something that didn't cause him pain and this isn't something that didn't have consequences."

Police say he met the victim through his job as a bus driver for the Watertown City School District, and the assault occurred at his residence.

Piche will be requred to pay $375 in court fees and $1,000 to register as a sex offender, although he will not be included in sex offender databases due to the level 1 designation.

He will not be allowed to be alone with anyone younger than 17 years old, with some exceptions, and he was fired from his bus driver job as a result of his crime.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14989 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:12 am to
The girls father will have to step up and rectify that sentence. It's a shame that the judicial system failed miserably and makes it necessary but when people can't depend on the law to protect them they have no choice but to take it into their own hands.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:30 am to
While you are at it, you might as well rectify the judge along with the perp and the sentence.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:44 am to
I read this yesterday and seriously can't believe the a-hole got no jail time.....I swear our judicial system is beyond fricked up.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:06 am to
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can't believe the a-hole got no jail time.....I swear our judicial system is beyond fricked up.



A loser n his early 20s and with no criminal history has no luck with women his own age and hooks up with a high school girl. It is absolutely wrong, but it happens 1000 times per day in this country.

In this case, her parents find out, and he is charged, convicted and sentenced for statutory rape. He is now a felon for the rest of his life and listed on the sex offender registry. In all likelihood, he has been “scared straight” to the extent that he won’t be trying to have sex with ANYONE for years ... certainly not with teenagers... so his risk of recidivism is likely quite low.

Realistically, what purpose would be served by spending taxpayer dollars to warehouse him in a prison?
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 6:55 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:08 am to
quote:

Realistically, what purpose would be served by spending taxpayer dollars to warehouse him in a prison?

Bc that's where rapists go
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:15 am to
frickin filth
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:15 am to
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Bc that's where rapists go
That does not answer the question.

Prison seems to serve three basic potential purposes: punishment, rehabilitation and prevention of recidivism. The sentence that he received seems to serve the same purposes at a fraction of the cost to taxpayers.

Given unlimited resources, I would have no problem with some prison time, but resources are not unlimited. His sentence seems to be both cost-effective and appropriate to the crime.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:18 am to
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Prison seems to serve three basic potential purposes: punishment, rehabilitation and prevention of recidivism. The sentence that he received seems to serve the same purposes at a fraction of the cost to taxpayers.

So your stance is it saves the taxpayers some $$$$.....well shite send no one to jail then.....let's all get rapey
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:23 am to
Not remotely what I said. I THINK that you understand that, but one can never tell here.

We do not sentence people to death for robbery or sentence them to life in prison for parking tickets. We try to tailor the sentence to the crime, and I would HOPE that we try to do so in a manner cognizant of the cost.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50428 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:24 am to
quote:

Realistically, what purpose would be served by spending taxpayer dollars to warehouse him in a prison?


If she were 16 or 17, maybe I'd agree with your point. A 25 year old with a 14 year old? Nope.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:27 am to
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We do not sentence people to death for robbery or sentence them to life in prison for parking tickets

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Not remotely what I said either

quote:

I THINK that you understand that

No you don't....we've interacted in enough threads so just jump off the high horse
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We try to tailor the sentence to the crime, and I would HOPE that we try to do so in a manner cognizant of the cost.

Your position is you THINK he's scared straight and won't commit another felony in his life......bold strategy......you and the judge could be correct......or not
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:30 am to
So, just to be clear, if he would have raped your daughter (god forbid), you’d be ok with him NOT receiving jail time?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:35 am to
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So, just to be clear, if he would have raped your daughter (god forbid), you’d be ok with him NOT receiving jail time?
I doubt that many people could provide an objective analysis of the sentencing in a crime against a family member. That is one of the reasons that our system (unlike some) does not give the family a role in sentencing.

I asked an objective question of a group with no personal ties to this crime, and the responses are still largely emotional rather than objective.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42584 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:38 am to
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A loser n his early 20s and with no criminal history has no luck with women his own age and hooks up with a high school girl. It is absolutely wrong, but it happens 1000 times per day in this country.


The culture having deteriorated to the extent it has, I have some sympathy for this point of view.

This does not sound like "rape" as it was known when I way young - this headline absolutely screams for the word "STATUTORY" in front of it.

Today 13 yr olds are privy to the 'ways of the world' to an extent that I was not aware until I was well into my 40s.

questions - was this girl a virgin? was she the 'seducer'? - How receptive was she to flirtation?

What I see is a failure of parentage here - and an utter collapse of the moral spine of America.

Pointing out individual instances of this moral cancer and 'tsk-tsk'ing about it is equivalent to pouring outrage at one person on the Interstate for doing 72 while in a whole convoy of other drivers doing the same. But he just happened to be the one the cops pulled over = with the explanation of = "Its like duck hunting - a whole flock flies over and you can only shoot one." << actually the explanation given to my daughter when she was in college 40 years ago.

Yeah the guy is a creep - the outrage should be for the parents and the culture that 'normalized' this shite.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:40 am to
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If she were 16 or 17, maybe I'd agree with your point. A 25 year old with a 14 year old? Nope.
That is fair, and I agree that those couple of years DO enhance the seriousness of this crime.

But WHY do you feel this way about the sentence? Exactly what purpose do you think would be served by a harsher sentence that is not served by this one? A sentence SHOULD serve affirmative purpose, right?

Is it pure vengeance?
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 7:33 am
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:40 am to
yet we still have people doing ten years on weed charges. Great laws everyone great laws that make total sense.
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:43 am to
This.... This is why there were lynch mobs in our nation's history.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:44 am to
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While you are at it, you might as well rectify the judge along with the perp and the sentence


This. If you’re going to risk life imprisonment, do society a favor and teach these POS judges that you don’t do sentencing like this.

It sends a very very clear message, “Yes, you can let the guy off easy, but it just might cost your life. So what are you gonna do?”
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 6:47 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42584 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:49 am to
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So, just to be clear, if he would have raped your daughter (god forbid), you’d be ok with him NOT receiving jail time?


If he had raped my daughter it would have had to be the physical overpowering non consensual kind of rape and I would have killed him myself.

If I had raised a slut, I would've probably been the type that 'tell me all about it' ==== but then that wouldn't be ME - it'd be some other a-hole that wanted to 'virtue signal' that someone else should be singled out for my own failure.

Screw all this moral relevance.

In this case - I have no info that has not been presented in this thread - and to me the evidence says that there was no force - no resistance - no qualms by the girl at all.

THAT is the singular moral outrage in this case - AS I KNOW IT TO BE AT THIS TIME - and I am not interested in digging into the details any more.

WHat I absolutely HATE is moral preening over individual instances by people who DONT GIVE A shite about the moral degeneracy that makes these things happen routinely.

SCREW that - attack the PROBLEM - not the random revelations of the SYMPTOMs of that problem.

It's like being OK with cancer - as long as it doesn't manifest itself in any awkward way - just let the cancer patient go on his way until he keels over dead - and then express surprise because 'he was so healthy - who knew?'

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