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re: "Forgotten" Rural France seethes - echos of BREXIT and Trump

Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:35 pm to
France has always been Paris and not much else....I guess now they are forgotten, forgotten.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:39 pm to
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France has always been Paris and not much else....I guess now they are forgotten, forgotten.
Economically and politically, possibly. Culturally, Marseilles, Lyon, Strasbourg, Nice. All lovely towns with their own charm. I'm sure people who spent more time in France can name a lot more. Marseilles is kinda ghetto now, though, TBH.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:19 pm to
Yeah..no.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:26 pm to
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and does the average person in KS care about anyone in NY? Or cali? frick no they don't.


The comparison is off. The NY/Cali crowd have been, up to now, able to set the political standards and values everyone has to comply with. It wasn't the people in the main body of the country who coined the term "fly over country", or people "clinging to their guns and bibles" etc. So why would they give a crap about what the coast hipsters cared about? On the other hand the coast hipsters had no reason to look down the sculpted noses over their Oliver Peoples glasses and ridicule them.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:32 pm to
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That looks like Cairo Illinois in the bottom picture.


My thoughts exactly.
Posted by IdahoTiger
San Diego, CA
Member since Dec 2007
1871 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:58 pm to
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That is the way I look at it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order for capitalism to work at its absolute best, don't you need a global economy?


Yes! This is the correct answer.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 5:11 pm to
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France has always been Paris and not much else....I guess now they are forgotten, forgotten.


The French countryside is far more charming than Paris
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:27 pm to
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Why should any money go to the non-French over the French citizens? They pay taxes.


And they can figure out that every franc that goes to am immigrant is a franc that doesn't go to a Frenchman, doesn't repair a French road or bridge, and doesn't produce a job.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 1:38 pm to
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And they can figure out that every franc that goes to am immigrant is a franc that doesn't go to a Frenchman, doesn't repair a French road or bridge, and doesn't produce a job.


If you've seen European birth rates, integrating immigrant communities and making them viable is arguably more important than subsidizing restaurants and dairy farms to sustain dying townships. I get the controversy in that statement, but really look at what's required to sustain aging populations (who live ever longer) with low domestic birthrates.

Maybe the should find better immigrants, but they need immigrants.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133725 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 1:40 pm to
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And they can figure out that every franc that goes to am immigrant is a franc that doesn't go to a Frenchman, doesn't repair a French road or bridge, and doesn't produce a job.
"Franc"??? WTF?!
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 1:49 pm to
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We've seen that in this country even in the last 50 years. It's not the government's job to take taxpayer money to prop up those towns.





I agree, but it's also not the government's job to take taxpayer money from those small towns and prop up only heavily populated areas.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:05 pm to
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I agree, but it's also not the government's job to take taxpayer money from those small towns and prop up only heavily populated areas.
I can't speak for France, but I'll reiterate my earlier point that throughout most of the west, small towns are a net economic drain. In our country they are HUGE consumers of welfare dollars, have high rates of drug addiction and other symptoms of poverty, and (at best) in the case of our farming communities in the midwest, receive hefty subsidies for shite no one wants or needs.
Posted by Tad Pad
neither here, nor there
Member since Apr 2017
17 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:08 pm to
France isn't France anymore
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