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re: "Forgotten" Rural France seethes - echos of BREXIT and Trump
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:35 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:35 pm to SirWinston
France has always been Paris and not much else....I guess now they are forgotten, forgotten.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:39 pm to cwill
quote:Economically and politically, possibly. Culturally, Marseilles, Lyon, Strasbourg, Nice. All lovely towns with their own charm. I'm sure people who spent more time in France can name a lot more. Marseilles is kinda ghetto now, though, TBH.
France has always been Paris and not much else....I guess now they are forgotten, forgotten.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:26 pm to Hawkeye95
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and does the average person in KS care about anyone in NY? Or cali? frick no they don't.
The comparison is off. The NY/Cali crowd have been, up to now, able to set the political standards and values everyone has to comply with. It wasn't the people in the main body of the country who coined the term "fly over country", or people "clinging to their guns and bibles" etc. So why would they give a crap about what the coast hipsters cared about? On the other hand the coast hipsters had no reason to look down the sculpted noses over their Oliver Peoples glasses and ridicule them.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:32 pm to lathoroughbred
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That looks like Cairo Illinois in the bottom picture.
My thoughts exactly.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:58 pm to MontyFranklyn
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That is the way I look at it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order for capitalism to work at its absolute best, don't you need a global economy?
Yes! This is the correct answer.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 5:11 pm to cwill
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France has always been Paris and not much else....I guess now they are forgotten, forgotten.
The French countryside is far more charming than Paris
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:27 pm to Scruffy
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Why should any money go to the non-French over the French citizens? They pay taxes.
And they can figure out that every franc that goes to am immigrant is a franc that doesn't go to a Frenchman, doesn't repair a French road or bridge, and doesn't produce a job.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 1:38 pm to FightinTigersDammit
quote:If you've seen European birth rates, integrating immigrant communities and making them viable is arguably more important than subsidizing restaurants and dairy farms to sustain dying townships. I get the controversy in that statement, but really look at what's required to sustain aging populations (who live ever longer) with low domestic birthrates.
And they can figure out that every franc that goes to am immigrant is a franc that doesn't go to a Frenchman, doesn't repair a French road or bridge, and doesn't produce a job.
Maybe the should find better immigrants, but they need immigrants.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 1:40 pm to FightinTigersDammit
quote:"Franc"??? WTF?!
And they can figure out that every franc that goes to am immigrant is a franc that doesn't go to a Frenchman, doesn't repair a French road or bridge, and doesn't produce a job.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 1:49 pm to Navytiger74
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We've seen that in this country even in the last 50 years. It's not the government's job to take taxpayer money to prop up those towns.
I agree, but it's also not the government's job to take taxpayer money from those small towns and prop up only heavily populated areas.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:05 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:I can't speak for France, but I'll reiterate my earlier point that throughout most of the west, small towns are a net economic drain. In our country they are HUGE consumers of welfare dollars, have high rates of drug addiction and other symptoms of poverty, and (at best) in the case of our farming communities in the midwest, receive hefty subsidies for shite no one wants or needs.
I agree, but it's also not the government's job to take taxpayer money from those small towns and prop up only heavily populated areas.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:08 pm to SirWinston
France isn't France anymore
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