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re: Florida Surgeon General Seeks to End ALL Vaccine Mandates

Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:54 pm to
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What specific age does the CDC recommend kids get the HPV vaccine?


He’s referencing the HBV here. He’s an idiot.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17546 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:55 pm to
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All good. My mistake. It was exactly what I MEANT! Now answer the fricking question.


The logic, whether you agree with it or not, is to prevent the risk of perinatal transmission. A number of adults that carry Hep B are asymptomatic. An infant with Hep B would be a baaaad situation for the baby.

Feel free to disagree with it. Makes no difference to me.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:17 pm to
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Cool. Not what you wrote earlier, Mr. Sensitive


Not what I meant either

Interesting way to deflect though.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17546 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:24 pm to
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deflect


You must not know the meaning of the word. Not surprised.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19568 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:26 pm to
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Floridians want to compete for a Darwin Award. Let’s see how that works out for them.


Hasn't been a problem is other states with laws allowing for parental and religous exemptions to mandatory vaccination policies. Most public and private universities have a list of vaccines students should have in order to enroll or live in on-campus housing, and pretty much all of them all for exemptions for that policy too.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:27 pm to
AND You still haven’t answered.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17546 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:30 pm to
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AND You still haven’t answered.


You must be illiterate.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:30 pm to
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AND You still haven’t answered.


Sex is not the only way to transmit HB.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:31 pm to
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AmosMosesAndTwins


You’re right! How many babies are going to get Hep B from a blood transfusion?

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iF iT sAvEs JuSt OnE lIfE
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:33 pm to
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He’s referencing the HBV here. He’s an idiot.


No I meant to say Hep B. But you know that you disingenuous POS
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:35 pm to
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blood transfusion


Also not the only way to transmit HB.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:36 pm to
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The logic, whether you agree with it or not, is to prevent the risk of perinatal transmission. A number of adults that carry Hep B are asymptomatic.


Ok. So, why the MAJORITY of the babies who don’t?

Can you riddle that one, Batman?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:37 pm to
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Also not the only way to transmit HB.


I’m listening. And still trying to find out why 99% of infants need it.

Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17546 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:43 pm to
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Ok. So, why the MAJORITY of the babies who don’t? Can you riddle that one, Batman?


So you're unable to reason why a hospital might take the precaution? Oof. It's too bad you can't inject brain cells from a syringe.

You asked the reasoning. I gave it to you. Like I said before, I don't care if you agree with it or not. Your question was answered.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 3:45 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:07 pm to
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Ok. So, why the MAJORITY of the babies who don’t?


For several reasons. First, patients are not honest all of the time, and thus may not reveal risk factors, which can include previous STDs, multiple sexual partners, previously incarcerated people, and past HCV infection. People who share a household with people with the risk factors are also at risk. Because HBV has a subclinical course in the portion of people who do have acute infection, that by itself poses a risk factor. In the cases of chronic HBV, the carriers may also be asymptomatic.

In addition, the younger an individual is, the more likely they are to develop chronic HBV. 90% of infected infants go on to develop chronic HBV. 50% of children between aged 1 and 5 years old go on to develop chronic HBV. Those people who are carriers for HBV have an elevated risk of developing several other complications, including hepatocellular carcinoma. Babies born to HBV positive mothers have a 90% chance of being HBV free if they are given the vaccine at birth and again 2 months later.

Look, no one cared about HBV before RFK started screeching about it. And now for some reason, people are convinced that they don’t need it but there is no real harm in administering it, and it is good for public health. HBV infection is one of the leading causes for liver cancer worldwide. It seems weird that you are on the side of cancer dude.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:56 pm to
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So you're unable to reason why a hospital might take the precaution? Oof. It's too bad you can't inject brain cells from a syringe.


How about later in life? When, you know, they become sexually active?

The reason why is, the HepB vaccine was not making money. So, they coupled it in with the other 25 you have to take so it could start making money.

The doctors will know if the mom has HepB while going to the OBGYN while pregnant.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:56 pm to
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hospital might take the precaution?


Yeah.

Money and fear porn.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28133 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:26 pm to
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That's retarded.


You think this distrust happened in a vacuum? You've always had anti-vax people out there but they never got much traction. People trusted the medical community over the nutters.

Now we know the medical community can shite the bed with the best of them and they don't have much credibility. It's not that the anti-vax crowd gained credibility, it's that the answer to them lost it. You can call that retarded if you want, I just call it an observation.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:39 pm to
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You think this distrust happened in a vacuum?


I think blaming everyone in healthcare while also not addressing the complete academic and regulatory capture by biotech and pharmaceutical companies is retarded and is a major factor contributing to any distrust of medical professionals. That is the milieu against which the backdrop of distrust of the medical community began. Nothing is going to be undone and nothing will get better. That’s just the way things will go.



Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28133 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:46 pm to
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I think blaming everyone in healthcare while also not addressing the complete academic and regulatory capture by biotech and pharmaceutical companies


Why do you think I'm exempting them from the blanket "medical community"? I agree, it wasn't just care providers, plenty of people were wrong or deliberately lied. Who knows why at this point.

That has consequences, and as much as some of you appear desperate to put it all on the stupid rubes who don't recognize your sovereignty it just doesn't work. Doctors, pharma, the regulatory agencies who gave them immunity; they all contributed to get us to the point where an AG in Florida can put this forward.
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