re: Flight records exonerate Trump; Comey, MSM twist and lie

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does not consider him a criminal target at this point, according to three people familiar with the discussions.

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Obstruction of justice is a criminal charge and thus common sense tells us Trump isn't being investigated for such.

Don't you progressive morons every tire of being wrong?

Try that again. In English.

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Obstruction of justice is a criminal charge and thus common sense tells us Trump isn't being investigated for such.

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I don't think the DoJ needs to consider someone indictable to investigate them. Leon Jaworski investigated Nixon and ultimately named Nixon an unindicted co-conspirator due to the prevailing policy that the President not be indicted, though he would likely have been indicted otherwise (and hence the Ford pardon).

You wavered for a bit in the early fall, Bonds, but since then you've stayed strong.

What makes you think the storm starts now?

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Obstruction of such an investigation would be a crime, though.

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Yes it would be , and if that were the case then Trump would be under CRIMINAL investigation, but he isn't according to first Comey and now Rosenstein.

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Where did you read Rosenstein said Trump wasn't under investigation? The reporting I've read was that he isn't a target.

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You're trying to play semantics here and failing miserably. IF Trump were being investigated for obstruction of justice, he would the TARGET of that investigation. I mean really that's just common sense.

You seem to be using "target differently from the U.S. Attorneys Manual defines the term ( USAM 9.11.153):

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A "target" is a person as to whom the prosecutor or the grand jury has substantial evidence linking him or her to the commission of a crime and who, in the judgment of the prosecutor, is a putative defendant. An officer or employee of an organization which is a target is not automatically considered a target even if such officer's or employee's conduct contributed to the commission of the crime by the target organization. The same lack of automatic target status holds true for organizations which employ, or employed, an officer or employee who is a target.

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contrast a "subject":

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A "subject" of an investigation is a person whose conduct is within the scope of the grand jury's investigation.

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When I read the stories about Rosenstein's discussion with Trump, I assumed he was using "target" as a term of art. Trump should be somewhat relieved that he isn't a target since Mueller would be required to let him know and he doesn't seem to have done that. Then again, if Mueller doesn't think he's indictable due to OLC policy on sitting presidents, not sure he'd ever get a target notification since they'd refer that to Congress for consideration for impeachment.

I haven't read a page of that thread. I don't even know who or what Q is supposed to be. I just know democrats. If they are accusing someone of doing something nefarious....it is because they have done it.

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therefor we know there is no investigation into Trump obstructing justice.

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I think you may be using "investigation into Trump obstructing justice" more narrowly than some others in this thread. I think we all could agree that his conduct with regard to the Comey firing is under investigation. Mueller has also investigated other conduct of Trump's, like the crafting of Don Jr's statement about the Trump Tower meeting and has interviewed witnesses like Mark Corallo who are pertinent to understanding that. Various press stories have reported sources with knowledge of the investigation that the conduct is being considered to see if there's an obstruction case, but obviously one's faith in anonymously sourced journalism varies greatly around here (in good faith and bad, unfortunately).