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Ex-Facebook Exec Warns Of ‘Revolution’ Caused By Job Automation

Posted on 8/7/17 at 7:47 pm
Posted by pcolatiger28
Pensacola, Fl
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 7:47 pm
Huffington Post article regarding automation and AI. I'm not shocked as we know this is coming but another reason to seriously consider what's in the very near future.

LINK
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80286 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 7:48 pm to
Universal living wage will be a thing and it will not be popular here
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 7:50 pm to
Small business which drives most of the economy is not going to be doing high dollar automation shite anytime soon.

I wonder if you can automate community organizing.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29178 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 7:51 pm to
He's right. Very few jobs are safe from it either, even ones like doctors and lawyers.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29178 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 7:53 pm to
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Small business which drives most of the economy is not going to be doing high dollar automation shite anytime soon.



High dollar will become more and more affordable as technology advances.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48960 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:00 pm to
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doctors and lawyers.


God you're a fricking idiot
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:07 pm to
There is a high probability that automation won't be considered high dollar in the near future. I believe that's the point
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29178 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:11 pm to
Not every doctor and lawyer job will be relegated to autonomous work, but a great deal of background research way very well be. Those professions won't go away, but the demand for that sort of labor will likely fall significantly.

Rather than teams full of low level lawyers pouring through statutes and decisions, an AI program will do that work, filter it to a single human 'quality-checker' who will then send it off to the lawyer arguing the case. A couple lawyers and a program will potentially be able to do the work that previously required a full team.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:16 pm to
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A couple lawyers and a program will potentially be able to do the work that previously required a full team.

That's what people don't understand, it won't take every job being automated to cause economic upheaval.
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:16 pm to
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Ex-Facebook Exec Warns Of ‘Revolution’ Caused By Job Automation

You could replace half the govt employees with one of these in their chair and never notice any decline in productivity.
Posted by silverdude
Member since Mar 2017
216 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:19 pm to
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Small business which drives most of the economy is not going to be doing high dollar automation shite anytime soon.


You are very ignorant on the matter.

The job losses in retail and trucking would decimate many communities alone. Are these small businesses going to survive the massive recession?

This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 8:22 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61295 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:29 pm to
Huffington Post. This automation shite is getting out of control.

Its not happening this fast.

The world is not going to end up like the terminator.

Its going to create new jobs and push people to new areas of industry.

Its going to be a slow process.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260902 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:33 pm to
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and it will not be popular here


It's been relatively well received here. The main issue is (hopefully) that it will replace other entitlements.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29178 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:36 pm to
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ts going to be a slow process.



Technology is progressing quicker than you think
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:39 pm to
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I'm not shocked as we know this is coming but another reason to seriously consider what's in the very near future.

Another reason we need to decrease legal immigration and curb stomp Illegal. America first...unless you need votes, then following the law, is not what you do.
derp
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 9:20 pm
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 8:48 pm to
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The world is not going to end up like the terminator.
That's the only part of your post that I believe you have correct.

AI is in its absolute infancy and it's already changing the face of modern business. And it is not far off from completely revolutionizing our capacity to automate common tasks (check out The Master Algorithm by Domingos). Even if the rate of development slows significantly, the rate of impact on society will be extremely rapid.

Yes some new jobs will be created (see my example with the lawyer quality checker). But it seems very unlikely that the new jobs created will outpace the jobs destroyed.
Posted by Blob Fish
Member since Mar 2016
3091 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:17 pm to
Lol one of their pieces of evidence that doctors will be replaced is the frequency people use WebMD. WebMD leads to MORE doctor's visits because people think they have a brain tumor when it's really a migraine.

The average person has no idea how to diagnose their own illnesses, and differential diagnoses are huge for common nonspecific symptoms. Not to mention, patients are unreliable historians. A knowledgeable person has to take histories and perform physical exams.

Nobody is going to trust their life to a robot anytime soon. Essentially all current automation is designed to be used BY doctors not in place of them - similar to using a calculator.

Will automation impact the profession? Sure. But you aren't going to see mass doctor unemployment any time soon. The profession will adapt.

Lawyers? Who cares? Good riddance.
Posted by Blob Fish
Member since Mar 2016
3091 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:20 pm to
It's a lot easier to predict which jobs will disappear than it is to predict which ones will be created.

Nobody 10 years ago would've predicted Uber would employ 300,000 drivers, but they could've easily said, "Duh. We won't have cashiers anymore."

I truly believe that most people with the darkest of predictions about unemployment due to automation are hoping for it because they like the idea of paychecks for nothing and a lifetime of vacay at the expense of the real innovators. If that day comes, Ayn Rand's prophesy will come true.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29178 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:32 pm to
Deep learning algorithm does as well as dermatologists in identifying skin cancer: LINK

The final product, the subject of a paper in the Jan. 25 issue of Nature, was tested against 21 board-certified dermatologists. In its diagnoses of skin lesions, which represented the most common and deadliest skin cancers, the algorithm matched the performance of dermatologists.
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