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re: ER Nurse says supplies and equipment are HOARDED - People are dying as a result
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:02 pm to MightyYat
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:02 pm to MightyYat
quote:So, basically, what you're saying is that you've had to toss out your Hippocratic Oath (if you don't have the consent of the patient to not resuscitate) and then don't attempt to resuscitate.
Right now, at my hospital, if you code there is no attempt to resuscitate because we need the space and equipment. If it gets to that point you’re automatically labeled DNR.
Sounds like decent grounds for a lawsuit since you've admitted to not making any life saving efforts when someone codes.
Not that I sit in judgment. Just an observation.
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:07 pm to HubbaBubba
This gets tricky due to the Emergency Declaration. Under normal circumstances you'd be absolutely correct.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:13 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:
Not that I sit in judgment. Just an observation.
Pence and his team just got a 2 trillion dollar (up to 6 trillion) capitol infusion.
Birx needs to get the straight scoop from these ER nurses if she is going to claim this DNR travesty doesn't exist. Birx's credibility is at stake.
I trust Birx, but she in a safe space in D.C. - not anywhere near the front lines. I think she is being misinformed by supply-chain bureaucrats.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:14 pm to bamarep
quote:Can you point me to where I can find the language that states doctors and medical professionals can pick and choose who to give life-saving effort to and who doesn't get it? Just curious since you mentioned the EO.
This gets tricky due to the Emergency Declaration. Under normal circumstances you'd be absolutely correct.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:17 pm to HubbaBubba
Start with Crisis Standards of Care and it goes from there.
Like I said baw, it's tricky. Under the Emergency Declaration many of the CMS regs are relaxed. It's a tough situation for everyone involved.
Like I said baw, it's tricky. Under the Emergency Declaration many of the CMS regs are relaxed. It's a tough situation for everyone involved.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:19 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:
Can you point me to where I can find the language that states doctors and medical professionals can pick and choose who to give life-saving effort to and who doesn't get it? Just curious since you mentioned the EO.
If you have an available supply of 10 ventilators, and all 10 are hooked up to patients. Then a patient needing a vent is wheeled into your ER room...
That is the situation the ER nurse in this thread is describing. The regulations don't mean squat. If you are out of machines, you are out of machines.
Here's the vid - she doesn't stutter:
LINK
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:28 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:The specific situation referenced is that someone already under care codes, but is not given the courtesy of any life saving effort to resuscitate.
Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:29 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Some places are using CPAP and BPAPs for patients on the lower scale of needing vents. Where possible and appropriate of course.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:44 pm to HubbaBubba
Here is an excerpt from a Henry Ford Hospitals letter. They admit that they sent out the letter (tough to deny) but now claim it was only a draft, and was never implemented.
LINK
quote:
3. Some patients will be extremely sick and very unlikely to survive their illness even with critical treatment. Treating these patients would take away resources for patients who might survive.
LINK
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:12 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:
So, basically, what you're saying is that you've had to toss out your Hippocratic Oath (if you don't have the consent of the patient to not resuscitate) and then don't attempt to resuscitate.
Sounds like decent grounds for a lawsuit since you've admitted to not making any life saving efforts when someone codes.
Not that I sit in judgment. Just an observation.
It’s discussed at a certain point with the patient and they sign paperwork. It’s not just doctors and nurses making calls in the fly. It’s a messed up situation but it’s happening and it’s awful.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:16 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:Do you think by posting the same link over and over that it will make someone who doesn't want to watch it click on it?
Again, here is a link to the actual video for anyone who wants to judge how totally full of shite LSURussian is. LOL
You don't seem very intelligent.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:25 pm to LSURussian
quote:
Do you think by posting the same link over and over that it will make someone who doesn't want to watch it click on it?
You don't seem very intelligent.
No, moron.
I do it to guide the thread back to the point of it, and away from all the spam you shills keep posting.
But thanks for helping prolong the thread.
Here's the link again:
LINK
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:29 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
They have 10 ventilators in that hospital, and she put her patient on the last available ventilator.
New York has 4000 ventillators in storage that are not being used. Why doesn't her hospital administrator call Cuomo and ask for 10 of their 4000?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:34 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:Says the guy who doesn't know the difference in "capital" and "capitol."
No, moron.
quote:LINK
a 2 trillion dollar (up to 6 trillion) capitol infusion.
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Are you in the 14.7428% of people who believe everything they read on the internet?
quote:This thread is anchored. It won't go to the top of the page when someone replies to it.
But thanks for helping prolong the thread.
That means an admin either realized it's a really crappy/dishonest thread or he saw it duplicates the same topic containing the same video you posted last night.
Is that nurse your granddaughter or something??
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:55 pm to MightyYat
quote:But if they say, "frick that, you do everything you can. I'm not signing away my desire to live." what do you do?
It’s discussed at a certain point with the patient and they sign paperwork.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 4:00 pm to LSURussian
quote:I don't believe a damn thing YOU write on the internet.
Are you in the 14.7428% of people who believe everything they read on the internet?
And I backed up the vid I posted with an article from the Detroit News. LINK
You, on the other hand, are talking out of your arse with nothing to back your babbling.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 4:03 pm to LSURussian
quote:No.
That means an admin either realized it's a really crappy/dishonest thread
It means losers like you whined to the Admins because you were getting owned on this thread.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 4:13 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:Not me. I hope everyone got to read it before it was anchored.
It means losers like you whined to the Admins because you were getting owned on this thread.
Your paranoia is showing...
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