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re: Email From Hunter’s Laptop Now PROVES He Was Using Info From Classified Doc’s Joe

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Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:15 am to
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NATO


NATO and the Americans have broken every promise ever made to the Russians following the dissolution of the USSR.

NATO putting nuclear arms on Russia's doorstep is a redline that could not be crossed.

We don't have to like Russian response. But their response is appropriate from their side. We've done the same regarding Cuba multiple times.
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:05 am to
Now examine the Cheney’s connections to all this. This is Deep State MIC corruption/enrichment ala the invasion of Iraq “enriched uranium” and “WMD” on steroids.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:19 am to
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website en-volve a fake news website, no disclosure of who owns or runs the site.


You taking the stance here that hunter is innocent?
joeybd takes the stance that he and other antifa ARE TOLD TO TAKE.

...and when caught, slinks away like pussy
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 8:22 am
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:43 am to
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NY Post reporter Miranda Devine found “a curiously well-informed email” linking Biden’s classified Documents to the federal probe into Hunter’s “foreign business dealings.”

One striking email during this period stands out. It was from Hunter to Archer on April 13, 2014, a week before Joe Biden visited Ukraine to meet then-Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk and refers to “my guys upcoming travels.”

For Hunter, it was an uncharacteristically lengthy email, listing 22 points about Ukraine’s political situation, with detailed information about the upcoming election and predicting an escalation of Russia’s “destabilization campaign, which could lead to a full-scale takeover of the eastern region, most critically Donetsk.


Anyone have a link to this email? Don’t see a link to it in the NY Post article. If it’s all drawn from a highly classified document why not post more about it than just describe one or two out of 22 points?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:59 am to
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NATO putting nuclear arms on Russia's doorstep is a redline that could not be crossed.


NATO never threatened putting nukes on Russia’s doorstep. This is pure Russian propaganda.

The reason Russia invaded Ukraine is right there in this 2014 e mail. They wanted Crimea and a land bridge to get there.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5877 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:50 am to
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NATO never threatened putting nukes on Russia’s doorstep. This is pure Russian propaganda.



What do you think it means to allow Poland and Ukraine as full-fledged NATO members?? It puts US nuclear arms in play in the event of an attack on either nation.

We can hate the big bad russkies. But we have to understand their reasoning.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:03 am to
Poland had been invaded by Russia numerous times. Are you against letting them protect themselves. Besides that Poland isn’t on the Russian border.

In 2014 Putin had designs on Ukraine. The e mail quoted shows that. Later that test they took Crimea unopposed and invaded Eastern Ukraine proper where they did face resistance.

None of this was done because Ukraine wanted in NATO.

Since Russia had proven to be an aggressive neighbor with designs on all of Ukraine, it’s only common sense fir them to seek NATO’s help just as Poland did. You’d be stupid not to do so.

Russia set the table, they forced other nations into action. That’s it plain and simple.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37593 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:29 am to
That analysis won't sit well with the Putin fans on here
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5877 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Poland had been invaded by Russia numerous times. Are you against letting them protect themselves. Besides that Poland isn’t on the Russian border.



Poland is on the Russian doorstep, just as Cuba is on the US's. I'm fully aware of Polish history- I have Polish in laws. They despise Russians. I mean, effing hate them.

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None of this was done because Ukraine wanted in NATO.



I cannot disagree more. I'm not a Russophile by any stretch. But to think that this is all because of landbridge in Crimea is very myopic. We saw similar moves in the South Ossetia crisis when Tsakishvili wanted to go after ethnic Russians in Georgia. We, as Americans, do not understand ethnic solidarity, but it is a real thing throughout Europe- especially with Russians.

The Russians cannot tolerate Ukraine in NATO. Just as we couldn't tolerate Cuba in the Warsaw Pact.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 12:52 pm to
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The Russians cannot tolerate Ukraine in NATO. Just as we couldn't tolerate Cuba in the Warsaw Pact.


When Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 NATO wasn’t discussed. Since the invasion, yes Ukraine moved in that direction.

Would you also approve of Russia invading Poland too? Would you approve of Russia invading Finland? Sweden? The reason all these nations want in NATO is Russia.

Does Russia have some kind of permit you invade their neighbors just because?
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