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re: Does the left really believe we can power the entire country on solar and wind?

Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:21 pm to
Good! It will be there when we need it.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:22 pm to
Link for that >50%?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:23 pm to
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You are correct on that. But electricity is already at greater than 50% from renewables. In a very short timeframe.

Well. Of course I'm correct. You made a false assertion. I said it was false. You cited Denmark in response to me saying it was false. I showed you that using Denmark didn't support the original assertion.

Thank you for the assist. Not that I needed it.

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But electricity is already at greater than 50% from renewables. In a very short timeframe.

Cool story.

Alas. This particular sub-discussion started with you saying
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There are already entire countries that are powered by majority non fossil fuel sources! First world countries.


Again. Thanks for assisting me in showing you the error of your assertion.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:23 pm to
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Link for that >50%?



table on the right
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 2:24 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:24 pm to
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Link for that >50%?

He tried citing Denmark

Yeah. I embarrassed him on that one.

Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:25 pm to
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He tried citing Denmark

Yeah. I embarrassed him on that one.




It's > 50% of electricity, not total energy. My bad. I knew better but said it incorrectly
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:25 pm to
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cahoots


Well shite. More than 50% of the electricity where I LIVE is derived from renewables. I'm powered by the TVA!!!!

What a dumb frick you are trying to find niches to prove your point.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:26 pm to
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You are correct on that. But electricity is already at greater than 50% from renewables (which is what I wanted to say). In a very short timeframe. Does that sound niche to you? More than half of the entire grid of denmark?



You’re talking out of your arse. We aren’t even at 20%.

LINK
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:26 pm to
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Well shite. More than 50% of the electricity where I LIVE is derived from renewables. I'm powered by the TVA!!!!



Well you do live in a socialist area

Not everyone has that
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:27 pm to
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You’re talking out of your arse. We aren’t even at 20%.



Denmark, not here
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:27 pm to
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It's > 50% of electricity, not total energy. My bad. I knew better but said it incorrectly

Well, it's really not particularly useful to your argument to cite some narrow place that has more than 50% in electricity.

Denmark has less than 6M people.

There are plenty of such pockets in the world and even the US.

Basically, an major population near a fricking DAM qualifies.

Sheesh
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Well you do live in a socialist area

Not everyone has that
Well. more to the point. I live near a major river you can successfully DAM

And, of course, it ain't like you can build 10,000 DAMs, now can you moron?

So, SCALE matters. Sheesh.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:29 pm to
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I'm sure it's cool but you and I both know that it will have some environmental impact on sea life that pisses everyone off.

There ain't no free lunch

Yeah it’s just another supplement to fossil fuels, which aren’t going anywhere and the Dems know it.

There’s 300+ years worth of NG under our country alone.

And in 20-30 years we’ll probably have more ethanol fueled cars than electric cars.

The Left loves misinforming their base to manufacture fear and anger. They are so much easier to manipulate and deceive when they’re like that.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:30 pm to
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Well. more to the point. I live near a major river you can successfully DAM



Huntsville right? Aka socialist.

Hows life?

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And, of course, it ain't like you can build 10,000 DAMs, now can you moron?



No. And denmark didn't build dams, did they?

You brought up dams, not me
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:31 pm to
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Yeah it’s just another supplement to fossil fuels, which aren’t going anywhere and the Dems know it.


Yup. And not just because "Big Oil" is some boogeyman.

It ain't going anywhere because to make the world greater than 50% renewable............the WORLD cahoots..........would pretty much require we have a world war that kills about 3 billion people first.

Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3708 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:31 pm to
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You need a lot of wire for any sort of energy application
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What I was talking about was the “crash” program that would be required to mine the copper and aluminum to build the umpteen thousand wind turbines and gazillion acres of solar panels required to eleminate fossil fuel usage within AOC’s 10 year deadline .
Not to mention all the electric motors to replace all the internal combustion engines in our vehicles,shiips and airplanes.
As I said I am pretty ignorant in this area but I am reading and learning some. I have enjoyed this thread,some serious intellects posting here.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:32 pm to
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No. And denmark didn't build dams, did they?

You brought up dams, not me


Do you think you have a point?

Denmark is a niche.

Where I live is a niche.

Alas, we can't move the whole world to Denmark or Huntsville.

NOTHING you've said changes reality.

WE ARE MULTIPLE DECADES AND ALL OF US WILL BE DEAD BEFORE FOSSIL FUELS HAVE A PEER THAT CAN COMPETE IN TERMS OF PRODUCing THE WORLD'S.........THE WORLD'S YOU STUPID frick.......ENERGY NEEDS
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 2:34 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:33 pm to
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You need a lot of wire for any sort of energy application

Not sure why this was in response to me. Not my quote.

I mean. I agree with you. Just think we have misattribution here.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:37 pm to
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WE ARE MULTIPLE DECADES AND ALL OF US WILL BE DEAD BEFORE FOSSIL FUELS HAVE A PEER THAT CAN COMPETE IN TERMS OF PRODUCT THE WORLD'S.........THE WORLD'S YOU STUPID frick.......ENERGY NEEDS



I'm in my 20s so I have to actually think about that future. You're an old triggered man living in a socialist paradise. It's cool. Enjoy those federal dollars and that dam. And have a nice day!
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27186 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:41 pm to
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I'm in my 20s


This explains a hell of a lot...
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