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re: Does Obama have any lasting contributions or successes whatsoever?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:16 pm to olddawg26
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:16 pm to olddawg26
I jabbed you about your teams, then you ask me to elaborate, and I do.. and then now you have nothing to respond with. and then you project onto me your lack of response.
Incredible.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:17 pm to WheelRoute
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Concerns about the debt are 99% of the time a political tool used by the out of power party to curb spending on the priorities of the majority.
ding ding ding
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:18 pm to 225bred
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I jabbed you about your teams
This was what I was asking about...
Im just wondering why you brought them up in this thread?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:31 pm to WheelRoute
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Unemployment rate is a lagging indicator which is what I've been preaching in all of these celebratory "Trump's Economy!" posts six months in. The double digit number happened under Obama but I don't think there's an economist alive who would attribute 10% unemployment in Oct 2009 to any policy that he enacted. And whether you want to attribute that double digit # to him or Bush, it's still Obama's ARRA + a number of minor policy decisions that reversed the trend. So he gets credit there, regardless.
1. So you lied about Obama inheriting Bush's 'double digit unemployment.
2. Then you lie about Obama actually having the double digit unemployment.
3. Then you lie that Obama gets credit for not continuing double digit unemployment.
4. Then you lie about growth rates being fab because they were above zero even though Obama had the flatest growth in the history of recoveries.
5. Then you lie about Obama's policies being responsible for this non existent economic growth.
You're such a bad liar that you approach boring . Go with some really big ones like 'Obama killed Osama in hand to hand combat'.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:33 pm to Zach
As I said in another thread, if Obama hadn't been black he would have never sniffed the White House, he had no worthwhile accomplishments in private life, none as a Senator, and continued that trend as POTUS. Here was a guy who clearly became President only to say "I was President"
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:35 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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if (blank) hadn't been (blank) he would have never sniffed the White House
I think there could be many who fall under this
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:43 pm to olddawg26
His legacy will be based off the unfortunate situation that arose that rocked his presidency, the financial crisis.
He handled that situation as well as any one could. Although there were flaws, it could have been a hell of a lot worse and history will show that that crisis was handled very well.
He handled that situation as well as any one could. Although there were flaws, it could have been a hell of a lot worse and history will show that that crisis was handled very well.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:47 pm to olddawg26
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Obama gave the black people more of a "voice" and "hope" so to speak about their issues. As if there was a thorn of racism and black people decided to pull it out. Was always going to get worse before better, but needed to be pulled to start healing.
This has got to be a joke. That racist Communist POS set race relations back 50 years. What "thorns" are you referring to?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:49 pm to Dale51
So you truly believe race relations are the same as they were in the mid 60's? What shite hole do you live in?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:49 pm to WheelRoute
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Our GDP is 18.5 trillion and our interest payments are 400bn. Seems reasonable
So just pay the interest and "forget" about the principle debt amount? Does that seem reasonable?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:53 pm to olddawg26
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So you truly believe race relations are the same as they were in the mid 60's? What shite hole do you live in?
That makes no sense. In the mid 60's and before, it was the "whites" who were racist, and now the blacks are the true racists and want everything segregated. Try to keep up..
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:53 pm to olddawg26
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I think there could be many who fall under this
No doubt true
Doesn't change things in regards to Obama. He squandered 8 years of being President. I mean he could have and should have been the person who put a complete end to race problems in the US , all he had to do was one time, just once come out and say "you know , when a black man is elected President it might be time to stop screaming that the system is rigged and racist. Yes there are individual problems out there still and yes there is racism is out, but I'm living proof that black men can reach the pinnacle in this country" or something to that affect if he truly cared about making things better between whites and blacks, but he couldn't even manage to do that.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:57 pm to Dale51
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That makes no sense. In the mid 60's and before, it was the "whites" who were racist, and now the blacks are the true racists and want everything segregated. Try to keep up..
Black people arent racist and neither are whites with the right education and correct upbringing. Do you there was more or less police killing innocent blacks in the 60's? At what point do you think blacks wouldnt uprise against that like we're seeing?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:00 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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"you know , when a black man is elected President it might be time to stop screaming that the system is rigged and racist. Yes there are individual problems out there still and yes there is racism is out, but I'm living proof that black men can reach the pinnacle in this country"
This sounds perfect for what a white person wanted him to say, but the truth is that it really just pissed people off more to see a black guy as president. You and bamarep and a few others are LIVING PROOF that you couldn't handle it. It's not a big deal my grandad is the same way, and he's one of the best persons alive. I just dont think its possible for you to see the whole picture, and thats fine.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:01 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
You think there's no innocent blacks? Can someone chime in if he's trolling or can I continue thinking this whole board is extremely racist
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:05 pm to olddawg26
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Black people arent racist and neither are whites with the right education and correct upbringing.
I agree. My comment assumed the ones who were.
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Do you there was more or less police killing innocent blacks in the 60's? At what point do you think blacks wouldnt uprise against that like we're seeing?
There were probably more (seeing that there are so few now)...because the police reports would have not implied innocence for the blacks so the data doesn't exist to compare..
Do you think there are a lot of police killing innocent blacks now??
If you want to compare time periods, do you think there are more or less blacks killing blacks in the 60's then or now?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:08 pm to Damone
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Does Obama have any lasting contributions or successes whatsoever?
Well I've been feeling good that he's no longer President...so there's that.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:09 pm to Dale51
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Do you think there are a lot of police killing innocent blacks now??
I don't actually. I think there's probably more than what the far right thinks and less than what the media and leftists think.
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If you want to compare time periods, do you think there are more or less blacks killing blacks in the 60's then or now?
Now. Of course. But theres also a way less number being killed by police now, but that came with some serious bucking from the black community, the thorn I talked about.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:18 pm to olddawg26
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But theres also a way less number being killed by police now, but that came with some serious bucking from the black community, the thorn I talked about.
Fair enough.
In comparing actions past and present, don't you think there is far less police abuse now in comparison to the past, considering the actions and behavior of the generic "Black rights Movement"? In the past, black were very respectful and embracing of law and order and traditional values...their marriage rate was more than whites with fewer children born out of wedlock...and they were still belittled. Now the BLM and their clones and supporters are very often vile and violent thugs, with little legal actions taken against them and their mobs..and they just scream "RACIST" louder.
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