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re: Does Memorial Day include confederate soldiers?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:32 am to momentoftruth87
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:32 am to momentoftruth87
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other countries
We're better than they are and "that's how other countries do it" doesn't mean shite. In fact, that's an argument people like BamaAtl and Robert O'Rourke use to attack the Second Amendment.
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:34 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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We're better than they are and "that's how other countries do it" doesn't mean shite. In fact, that's an argument people like BamaAtl and Robert O'Rourke use to attack the Second Amendment.
I'm giving him a chance to further explain himself because he's coming very close to wishing our government to behead foreigners on video like ISIS.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:34 am to pankReb
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Are you saying that you wish America operated under the same principles as 3rd world terrorist states?
You’re a moron. I said nothing along those lines. You and your boyfriend keep acting like these are natural rights once someone comes in. We treat our own citizens below these people. That is what you stand for.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:36 am to momentoftruth87
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I said nothing along those lines.
But you did. You responded to my post about asking if the government has the right to torture foreigners with a statement about how other countries treat americans.
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acting like these are natural rights once someone comes in.
show me where in the constitution is states that ONLY citizens are covered.
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We treat our own citizens below these people
I don't disagree.
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That is what you stand for.
Another fabricated narrative based upon an emotional response by you.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:40 am to Sixafan
I'd say yes, Memorial Day includes the honored dead of Both the Union and the Confederacy. Confederate veterans are (were) considered to be veterans by the post war US government.
Men in my family, brothers, from North Georgia fought for the Union and others for the Confederacy - they all survived the war. The family left Dahlonega, Ga for the Oregon trail, and peppered my people in Iowa, Arkansas, Texas and Oregon.
Men in my family, brothers, from North Georgia fought for the Union and others for the Confederacy - they all survived the war. The family left Dahlonega, Ga for the Oregon trail, and peppered my people in Iowa, Arkansas, Texas and Oregon.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:40 am to Epaminondas
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traitors
You posted the pride flag, did I miss the news headline that they got their own country and are engaged in armed combat with the U.S.?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:53 am to pankReb
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I'm giving him a chance
Don't. These kinds of people don't give a frick about the Constitution, beyond where it supports their personal beliefs.
They don't understand the difference between a positive right and a negative right. They love positive rights, because it allows them to assert their personal views into the lives of others.
...and they have no fricking clue how the Second Amendment fits into any of that. It's a political football to them. A talking point. "Real big 2A guys, but..."
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:07 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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They love positive rights, because it allows them to assert their personal views into the lives of others.
Reminds me of democrats.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:07 am to AU86
I’m with you AU86 
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:10 am to DisplacedBuckeye
I am surprised you don't wake up and blow your brains out everyday given your anger issues and disability.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:10 am to Sixafan
Has anyone pointed out yet that Memorial Day was invented by southern women for confederate soldiers?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:11 am to Grigio
Would be a lot cooler if he did
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:19 am to Grigio
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Grigio
Number of Posts: 590
You spend an unhealthy rate of this alter's time here whining about something I've said.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:25 am to SixthAndBarone
Memorial Day was not created until Lincoln Pardoned everyone .....Try again.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:45 am to bluedragon
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Memorial Day was not created until Lincoln Pardoned everyone .....Try again.
You're a fricking moron. A pardon does not mean those who fought for the Confederate States means they magically fought for the United States.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:49 am to SixthAndBarone
Yankee ....you need to look at the history of the day ...
A Union General started the day.
In the years following the bitter Civil War, a former Union general took a holiday originated by former Confederates and helped spread it across the entire country.
The holiday was Memorial Day, an annual commemoration was born in the former Confederate States in 1866 and adopted by the United States in 1868. It is a holiday in which the nation honors its military dead.
Gen. John A. Logan, who headed the largest Union veterans’ fraternity at that time, the Grand Army of the Republic, is usually credited as being the originator of the holiday.
Yet when General Logan established the holiday, he acknowledged its genesis among the Union’s former enemies, saying, “It was not too late for the Union men of the nation to follow the example of the people of the South.”
A Union General started the day.
In the years following the bitter Civil War, a former Union general took a holiday originated by former Confederates and helped spread it across the entire country.
The holiday was Memorial Day, an annual commemoration was born in the former Confederate States in 1866 and adopted by the United States in 1868. It is a holiday in which the nation honors its military dead.
Gen. John A. Logan, who headed the largest Union veterans’ fraternity at that time, the Grand Army of the Republic, is usually credited as being the originator of the holiday.
Yet when General Logan established the holiday, he acknowledged its genesis among the Union’s former enemies, saying, “It was not too late for the Union men of the nation to follow the example of the people of the South.”
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:19 pm to Sixafan
Yes
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:32 pm to GoAwayImBaitn
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True Americans fighting an unjust government which levied unfair taxation upon its people
This!
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:42 pm to Sixafan
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Please weigh in on a debate. I say it does and the searches seem to support that. Especially since all confederate soldiers were granted a full pardon by president Jackson.
So OTHERS say it doesn’t include confederates and originated with a black gathering in 1868 in Charleston to remember fallen Union soldiers. I read it started with southern women who gathered to de irate graves of confederate soldiers and then they decided to also go ahead and rldeckrate the Union dead graves too and that caught on and untimately transformed into Memorial Day.
What sayeth you
What is the difference between the Constitutional Army and The Confederate Army other than the former won and the latter lost?
The South thought they could leave the voluntary union of states, and the North violently showed them they were wrong. I am not saying that the primary reason for the South leaving (i.e., economics based on slave labor) was right...just questioning if the North had the right to violently require them to stay.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:44 pm to Sixafan
It 100% does.
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