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re: Do you Promethean?

Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:13 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:13 am to
England doesn't have, manage, or control enough money to have this sort of influence today.

This retarded argument may have worked more in the 70s when LL invented it when UK was still the premier international banking hub. The US surpassing it a long time ago basically nukes the CT into orbit.

The development of the third world and emergence of various economic powers (Japan/SK first and now the ME, China, India, etc.) also completely erodes this control argument.

Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth fund has about the same size as the BOE.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:14 am to
You are flailing about now

Its time for you to just take the L
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:17 am to
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they posited London's influence in the middle east finances, especially Iran's, over the past 90 years.

I'm still waiting on evidence. You're posting more fantasy.

The UK hasn't had influence in Iran since 1979 after the Revolution.

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Recently, when 'Economic Fury' was deployed, to replace Lloyds of London's maritime insurance, we stripped London of it's artificially created 'Terror Risk Premium'.


This was a failure, as I pointed out earlier ITT. They made this argument, claimed we flipped LOL's influence, and the SOH still was closed due to insurance issues.

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Then, days ago, you'll recall Scott Bessent announcing operational tools of the IRGC sheltered in London real estate and offshore havens like the BVI had been discovered and were being 'choked' out.

Again, this has nothing to do with the CT. How is owning RE in London a sign of "London's influence"? They're conflating unrelated things.

This is what they do. They use short clips without full context, then conflate things projecting perceived dot-connecting.

Under actual scrutiny and review it all falls apart.

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Now, we see announced the shutting down of all Iranian airlines will be tomorrow.

What does this have to do with England or the City of London?

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but it looks like the Trump administration's playbook was been influenced by Krazy Kokinda and others.


No. She's using conflation and dishonesty to project her insanity onto Trump's policies. It falls apart under any rational scrutiny.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:17 am to
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You are flailing about now

I didn't think you were going to respond to that
Posted by captainFid
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:17 am to
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I admit I did miss that, but is that the same as the banks being referenced? I thought the argument is the private banks in the City of London are controlling things.

Again, please catch up, counselor.

You're starting to remind me of the attorneys who file AI briefs, they haven't reviewed, then get smacked down by the court.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:19 am to
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Again, please catch up, counselor.


I'm already ahead of you

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You're starting to remind me of the attorneys who file AI briefs, they haven't reviewed, then get smacked down by the court.


But...I'm not?

Is the "City of London" private banks or the BOE? As I said, this is where definitions matter. That point (which you left out) was intentional.
Posted by LSUnation78
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:27 am to
I appreciate your post, its the loudest endorsement of susan kokinda and promethean i’ve heard yet.
Posted by Ten Bears
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:27 am to
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Well, first off, where did I actually state that as fact?


Strongly implied…”huge” mistake on my part. Bigger mistake on your part assuming my politics.

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I do know that the banks are controlling a large number of events around the world. I doubt you would disagree with that.


I dont think anyone disputes this, however, the extent to which the Bank of England controls all events of the “global order” is an about a shallow and intellectually unsound concept imaginable.

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I know that Carney is / was involved in that part of the banking industry.


Ok, and so what? Hank Paulson was Treasury Sec in 2008 and previously worked for Goldman Sachs. If we are saying banks control everything, well, I am pretty sure the US banking system could eat the Bank of England as well as the entire banking system in England for breakfast. So the entire narrative that Trump is fighting the good fight against these forces is, well, ludicrous.

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The rest is speculation and to what degree? You have added a lot of hyperbole to yoiur posting. That indicates to me that you are young and still learning reasoning skills.


Again…not all arguments are good arguments. You have to utilize common sense here and consider the source. Again, the idea that the Bank of England controls global events is, well, stupid. The idea that Trump is trying to upset this order is, well, even dumber.

The world is a chaotic place. To find solace in simplistic understanding of random, seemingly connected events is, by very definition, weak reasoning.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:28 am to
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I appreciate your post, its the loudest endorsement of susan kokinda and promethean i’ve heard yet.

Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:28 am to
exactly
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:31 am to
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I dont think anyone disputes this, however, the extent to which the Bank of England controls all events of the “global order” is an about a shallow and intellectually unsound concept imaginable.


It's utterly retarded and defies all logic or facts.

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Ok, and so what? Hank Paulson was Treasury Sec in 2008 and previously worked for Goldman Sachs.


Scott Bessent worked for Soros

Soros is also interesting because if the BOE and British finance was so powerful, how did Soros butt frick them so bad in 1992?

Why has England/UK fallen so drastically in terms of SES/SOL and earning since the 70s? Why did they permit the US to become dominant? Why did England/UK lose almost all of their international influence?

Notice the "just asking questions" crew does everything they can to avoid answering the real questions
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 8:32 am
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:34 am to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:35 am to

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:36 am to
Excellent listen.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:46 am to
Now THAT is a big brained CT
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:51 am to
You really have lost your mind
Posted by Ten Bears
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:53 am to
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Notice the "just asking questions" crew does everything they can to avoid answering the real questions


Meh….i just think there are just really dumb people on this planet that fall for how stuff sounds and not what is actually said.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:06 am to
People want fantasies to be true for a variety of reasons...boring life, in/out group dynamics, etc.

With CTs you have to add in feeling special due to secret knowledge and all those dopamine hits. Some people in the CT mindset get so high on that they think they're actually special and important....some even make Twitter/X account to peacock this perceived superiority.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:08 am to
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Trump is doing the deep state and others' bidding with the Iran and Venezuela moves

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:15 am to
I'm not shocked that you're confused as to what Iran is and Venezuela was with respect to globalism.

Iran was an example of "globalism" from 1953-1979. Then they had a whole revolution rejecting that and have continued to fight against this since.

Hence "death to the West" and the alliance with the biggest anti-globalist state (Russia)
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