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re: DNC Chair Tom Perez: Socialism is Our Future

Posted on 7/3/18 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42479 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 8:42 pm to
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Sad that I can only relate to you that way. Just like Beer Jeep, ok show up and simply say "you dont know economics." Vague and without any specifics and scoring fictitious points for yourselves.


No one is stopping you from giving more of your money to the government. Why do you feel the need to force o5hers to give more to the government?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 8:58 pm to
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Oh no is heavy flow getting his shite packed in on economics again?!


I feel like you just type the word "economics" over and over and consider yourself well educated. Your idiotic hubris is as comical as your inferiority complex.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38469 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 8:59 pm to
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I feel like you just type the word "economics" over and over and consider yourself well educated.


More educated than most, less so than others.

On the topic of economics though, I run circles around your ignorant arse
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:01 pm to
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Wellllll... every time you open your mouth on the topic your extreme lack of understanding is put on full display.

You don’t need me to call you out on your lack of economic knowledge. Your own words speak volumes.


Your words dont though. You haven't said one thing that contains even a little economic insight. Hollow hubris with no ability to expound.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:02 pm to
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On the topic of economics though, I run circles around your ignorant arse



This is probably going to end the way it always does with me asking you to show me how I am wrong and you continuing to say nothing.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38469 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:05 pm to
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This is probably going to end the way it always does with me asking you to show me how I am wrong and you continuing to say nothing.


Uh wut? I’ve dragged your arse through the mud time and time again. As have several other posters any time you get the feeling to talk out of your arse.

I have no problem wiping the floor with your dumbass again.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 9:06 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:10 pm to
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you dont know economics."


You don't

Which makes you totally inadequate in these discussions.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:20 pm to
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Uh wut? I’ve dragged your arse through the mud time and time again. As have several other posters any time you get the feeling to talk out of your arse.


Nah, you just say this over and over. Youre like a broken record. Same ego drivel with no substance. I ask every time for you to have a real debate and you just beat your chest.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65818 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:22 pm to
I guess for it to work here, we have to kill 150 million, if we want to be consistent with past communism attempts....
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38469 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:23 pm to
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I ask every time for you to have a real debate and you just beat your chest.


Let’s go heavy flow.

Let’s start with minimum wage and mandated increases to it.

Does this hurt or help min wage employees? Why or why not
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 9:24 pm
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:26 pm to
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You wouldn't have the right because you're doing it based on your own presumption of what to do with the money without any regard to the community.


Just stop. Please. You're way out of your element here. It's very obvious.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:28 pm to
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DNC's official position is socialism is the future.

Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” Democrats have just gone off the deep end.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:28 pm to
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I would have hours of unprotected sex with her


Yep.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:51 pm to
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Let’s go heavy flow.

Let’s start with minimum wage and mandated increases to it.

Does this hurt or help min wage employees? Why or why not


Oh shite. I cant believe you responded.

It helps 90% of the bottom 30% Naturally, there are some casualties.

“When employers pay wages so low that working people have to turn to public assistance to make ends meet, they’re effectively receiving a subsidy from taxpayers,” said Cooper. “Policies that raise wages would free up resources that could then be used to strengthen anti-poverty programs or make investments in any number of other policy priorities. The simplest way we can do this is by raising the federal minimum wage.”

"The majority (66.6 percent) of individuals and families who receive public assistance work or are in a family in which at least one adult works. This number grows to 71.6 percent when focusing on recipients under the age of 65. More than two-thirds (69.2 percent) of all public assistance benefits that go to non-elderly families go to families in which at least one adult works.

If the bottom 30 percent of wage earners received a $1.17 per hour pay raise, more than 1 million working people would no longer need to rely on public assistance. For every $1 that wages rise among these low-wage workers, spending on government assistance programs falls by roughly $5.2 billion. Because this estimate is conservative and does not include the value of Medicaid benefits, it has the potential to be even higher.

Other findings from the paper include:

Raising the minimum wage to $12 by 2020 would reduce public assistance spending by $17 billion. These savings could be used to make improvements other anti-poverty programs, such the President Barack Obama’s proposal to expand the national school lunch program to provide food for children during the summer months."

EPI

So essentially $12 an hour us a more accurate amount, not $15. I believe $15 an hour is the failed experiment in Seattle.

Historically it hurts a small percent of minimum wage workers because it puts them out of a job but it helps over 90% of the bottom 30% of earners.

This is the exact same thing I said last time before you started jumping in and saying I don't know anything about economics as if it has historically turned out any different than I'm saying
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158011 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:00 pm to
EPI is liberal

They have an agenda.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98319 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:01 pm to
Ebbandflow just doing ebbandflow things
Posted by ispkthtrth
Member since Jul 2018
30 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:01 pm to
And? You're surprised by this? The left has always been about GIBSMEDAT leading to communism. This isn't new. This isn't unexpected. It's what they do. It's what they've always done. And it's what they will always continue to do.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:01 pm to
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They have an agenda.


Show how they are wrong and please use a complete look at history instead of just shooting something down bc you think they much dems.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158011 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:04 pm to
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bc you think they much dems


Dokle purfle.

Nah. You wouldn't do the same and I don't give a shite about you enough to read biased policy created by activists.

Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
14307 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:05 pm to
Not mine comrade....
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