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Disinformation Timeline and What's Next

Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:29 am
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22678 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:29 am
To recap, we start the day with the press conference in which authorities detail the shell casing writings, conversation with family members. Link to PC Statement

The shell casing writings:
- “notices, bulges, OWO, what's this?"
- “Hey fascists! Catch!”
- “Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao."
- “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”
Link to Ping Pong's thread

I will note that Ping Pong did get the arrows thing wrong. It's a reference to Helldivers 2 and a commonly used meme format which goes beyond ideology in the gamer circles. The "Fascist Catch" one, however, is a very specific reference to a commonly used meme amongst the left. See this one from Simp4AOC (if you can deduce ideology from that...)
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The Guardian backs up Robinson's ideology later on


Then, the orders went out. Be forewarned, the timeline is going to be out of place. This is generally how I saw them in real time, but it all happened at once.

It started with a few accounts with just enough reach. It started with this post by Anonymous

This is a photoshopped image. The real image is Tyler Robinson wearing what was apparently one of two short-sleeved shirts he actually owned: this one plain red

This started going around as well, completely disregarding the fact that this is a reference to the squatting slav meme that was popular back then. The Pepe Slav is a reference to the meme and not the original. This is, indeed, linked to Groypers but the Halloween picture predates the Groyper movement BY A FULL YEAR



This started circling around earlier, but they also found some other guy also named Tyler Robinson and linking a donation to Trump back to the shooter. Tyler would've only been 16 or 17 at the time and did not live in St. George, UT


There was another post on X from some guy calling himself a journalist who just outright made shite up. Can't find it, when I do I'll post it, but there was enough to get the Reddit machine going.

Then the first breakthrough happened...
Daily Mail drops a typical DM slop article that no one asked for where they spoke with his grandmother:


That was enough for Daily Beast to drop what would become the centerpiece of disinformation in this


I'm not going to link that article, but they do not mention the quote about Tyler never speaking politics with his grandmother.

Then came the bot accounts. We've even seen them here. And it eventually grew to the point where Congressmen are either hinting at it, or outright going with it.





Outlets who aren't yet committed to outright fabrication began doing what they can for the cause.



(The Atlantic)


Once The Guardian realized their publication was being used to contradict the narrative, they pulled it
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 10:40 am
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22678 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:29 am to
Obviously, everything is going to come out and probably in record time due to this behavior. The point of all of this is not to literally convince everyone Robinson was right wing. They're trying to create just enough confusion to create something they can seize on later.

This gets them a few things:

1. It delegitimizes the FBI and Utah State Police. Once they do come out with hard evidence, there will be enough people who have reasonable doubt about motive that they'll believe it's a cover up; and

2. When the Trump administration cracks down on backchannel leftwing violence, there will be just enough outrage to create chaos.

They don't need moderates and conservatives to believe it. They need THEM to believe it. They operate solely on chaos and it will look again like 2020. At that point, all of this again becomes about Donald Trump and even the outlets who won't or can't touch on this false narrative, they absolutely can touch on that.

They will fabricate anything and everything. They have indoctrinated enough people that they can get exactly what they want if they're willing to do it.

And no, they can't 'both sides' this one.

Which is why, I don't give a frick what the GOP believes even if I'm in 100% opposition, normal people cannot vote Democrat. At least not until this machine is broken. They effortless and shamelessly control whatever narrative they want to the point where they can change reality in real time and get enough of them to believe it so that they get their desired outcome.

"Yeah but Fox News", lmfao. Don't even. That's a counterpoint that can't be entertained. They know what this is, a lot of them. They don't care.

It's a battle to be won.
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 10:39 am
Posted by Loco Uno
Member since Sep 2025
537 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:31 am to
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22678 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:41 am to
We have not forgotten Iryna fwiw. We will be back- just a bit busy right now
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
6013 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:43 am to
Robinson may have been a groyper. As much as I want to, we cant rule that out yet. They sarcastically called Charlie Kirk a fascist. Tbh, this wacky gen-z shite is complicated.

The only thing we can say for certain is that Tyler Robinson was chronically online.
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22678 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:46 am to
There is one universal theme among those who've committed right-wing violence: every single one of them wanted everyone to know exactly why they did it. They leave unambiguous neonazi symbols, leave manifestos, make internet posts prior. They don't want the motives to be unclear because they're doing it as a demonstration of their beliefs. It's very similar to how Islamists work as well

Shapiro makes a good point here
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Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22678 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:49 am to
Bella Ciao is also 100% unambiguous, even more so than 'Fascists Catch'. You have to be very much aware of online leftwing activity to even know the significance of that song before yesterday.
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22678 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:53 am to
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
6013 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:17 am to
The groypers have a spotify list and Bella Ciao is the first song on that list.

Bella Ciao is also a song played by a call of duty streamer when he hunts people down in the game.

The song has become a meme

Posted by BasedAF
Member since Nov 2024
811 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:28 am to
So Robinson was banging a tranny. I guess he and SFP have more in common than I thought.
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