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re: Dems, Fearing Russia Collusion Investigation Will Come Up Empty, Now Attacking Bob Mueller
Posted on 2/13/19 at 7:48 pm to gthog61
Posted on 2/13/19 at 7:48 pm to gthog61
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Nothing at all has anything to do with the subject at hand.
You’re on a roll! Manafort just got whacked for lying to the court.
Guess what he is lying about?
Cigars above NYC if you guess right!
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 7:50 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
2/19/2019 for the win Lickacomeyhetastesgood!
Posted on 2/13/19 at 7:52 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
quote:Lying about contacts with a russian national who had been his ukrainian lobbying buddy for years.
anafort just got whacked for lying to the court.
Guess what he is lying about?
Next question?
Posted on 2/13/19 at 7:53 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
quote:"Lying" about collusion? Didn't think so
You’re on a roll! Manafort just got whacked for lying to the court. Guess what he is lying about? Cigars above NYC if you guess right!
Posted on 2/13/19 at 7:53 pm to L.A.
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Mueller over his "limited" probe
Simply amazing!
Mueller's indictments have been over things that either happened 15+ years ago or were process crimes that had nothing to do with Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 7:56 pm to Bunyan
quote:Only a Fifth Avenue Trumper like you would say that.
That's Trump saying it's up to the AG...not ice try that it would not be made public.
Tell me what did Trump mean when he said: I don't know. It depends. I have no idea what it's going to say,” said Trump.
Why would that make any difference if the AG was going to make the decision?
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 2/13/19 at 7:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Contact with him during the campaign and after the election
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Lying about contacts with a russian national who had been his ukrainian lobbying buddy for years.
Next question?
Nice try, Princess. The judge disagrees with you.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:07 pm to mb_
quote:I implore you to read up on the personal history of Paul Manafort.
Contact with him during the campaign and after the election
Aaron Mate, a left wing russiagate skeptic has written a very good profile of the man and his contact with constantin kilminik.
LINK
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Yet Mueller’s only references that Kilmnik has Kremlin “ties” came in two court filings in 2017 and 2018, and it’s not clear what Mueller meant in either case. In April 2018, Manafort’s attorneys told a Virginia judge that they have made “multiple discovery requests” seeking any contacts between Manafort and “Russian intelligence officials,” but that the special counsel informed them that “there are no materials responsive to [those] requests.”
Kilimnik insists that he has “no relation to the Russian or any other intelligence service.” According to a lengthy profile in The Atlantic, “insinuations” that Kilimnik has worked for Russian intelligence during his years in Ukraine “were never backed by more than a smattering of circumstantial evidence.” All of this has been lost on US media outlets, who routinely portray Kilimnik as a “Russian operative” or an “alleged Russian spy.”
Manafort's behaviors during the campaign (such as sharing polling data with kiliminik to give to ukrainian clients) are easily explained by the fact that Mr. Manafort was millions of dollars in debt in 2016.
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Rather than imagining it as part of some grand Trump-Russia conspiracy, there’s a more plausible explanation for why Manafort wanted public polling data to be forwarded to Ukrainian oligarchs. Manafort was heavily in debt when he joined Trump’s team. Being able to show former Ukrainian clients “that he was managing a winning candidate,” the Times noted, “would help [Manafort] collect money he claimed to be owed for his work on behalf of the Ukrainian parties.”
Kiliminik is Manafort's fixer and translator for his ukranian clients. Manafort was still deeply involved in ukrainian stuff at time of campaign. It is likely the case that THAT is why he was in contact with Kilminik.
This is what bugs me about you guys. You throw out half truths, misleading statements, and outright lies as if they are truth in this whole russiagate sage.
A ten minute research on the internet would show you kilminik is not some kremlin intelligence agent.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:10 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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Nice try, Princess. The judge disagrees with you.
What?
You guys need to desperately educate yourselves on the relationship between paul manafort and konstantin kiliminik. He was/is Manafort's translator and fixer for his Ukrainian clients.
There is zero evidence in court filings or elsewhere that Kiliminik is some nefarious head honcho intel dude.
If you want to understand Manafort's actions during election, this except from WP is the occam razor.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yet he was still lying about them and they obviously had influence over him, during and after the campaign
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You guys need to desperately educate yourselves on the relationship between paul manafort and konstantin kiliminik
Psst! Nothing Manafort says can be judged as truthful. Judge ruled just hours ago. Pay attention.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:26 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Collusionists = flat earthers
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:27 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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Psst! Nothing Manafort says can be judged as truthful. Judge rules just hours ago. Pay attention.
Interesting. But we should believe anything Cohen says, right? Even though he's literally going to jail for lying, he MUST be telling the truth now!
Please try to make sensible arguments
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:27 pm to mb_
Who is "they"?
Kiliminik is a russian national, not necessarily a kremlin operative. Ironically, the lobbying work Manafort was doing in Ukraine was for a party that wanted greater ties to the EU.
Former fusion gps employee: everything you think you know about manafort's eastern european lobbying is wrong
Kiliminik is a russian national, not necessarily a kremlin operative. Ironically, the lobbying work Manafort was doing in Ukraine was for a party that wanted greater ties to the EU.
Former fusion gps employee: everything you think you know about manafort's eastern european lobbying is wrong
quote:
A former contractor for Fusion GPS claims the opposition research firm got its investigation of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort “almost completely wrong.”
Graham Stack, who was hired by Fusion GPS in July 2016, writes in the Kyiv Post that he “share[s] the blame” for creating what he now says is a false narrative that Manafort worked for the Ukrainian government to advance a pro-Russia agenda.
But Stack, who has written for the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, argues that Manafort’s work in Ukraine did not advance Russia’s interests.
“What we got wrong about Manafort — and what Mueller has got partly right in his indictment — is that Manafort was nothing like a pro-Kremlin influence on the former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, as the dossier alleged. Instead, Manafort was one of the driving forces pushing Yanukovych towards signing the agreement with the EU. The Kremlin has every reason to hate him,” Stack wrote.
“Manafort was amazingly successful in bringing Ukraine into the Western fold,” he said.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:28 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
quote:fact: after more than 2 years, ZERO collusion/conspiracy charges for manafot.
Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So it begs the question...why lie?
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:32 pm to mb_
I don’t know. But it isn’t necessarily evidence of something greater
Look at George Papadopoulos
He lied, yet got a grand total of 12 days in jail. Already served.
He ended up being, frankly, a complete non story
Look at George Papadopoulos
He lied, yet got a grand total of 12 days in jail. Already served.
He ended up being, frankly, a complete non story
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:33 pm to L.A.
There’s literally nothing of note in that article. You guys at grasping at straws.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:34 pm to mb_
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So it begs the question...why lie?
I wonder why Gates isn’t lying about the meeting?
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