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re: December 7, 1941: A Date Which Will Live In Infamy
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:08 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:08 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:FDR wanted us in the War, but I doubt he had advance notice of Peral Harbor. An attack at Midway or in the Philippines was far more likely. Yamamoto had great big balls.
We knew that Japan was going to attack one of our pacific holdings....somewhere. I highly doubt FDR knew that pearl harbor and the base of the Pacific fleet was going to be attacked on December 7th and then did nothing about it. That's too far, but we obviously expected them to attack somewhere at some point in time across a very large portion of earth
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:13 pm to LSUvet72
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Nothing like getting US in a war........
He had been trying to get us to join WWII for awhile, making stump speech after stump speech.
Public polls showed Americans were drastically against entering WWII after the debacle in their late arrival to WWI and resulting questions, why the frick did we go "over there" to fight a European war?
But for Pearl Harbor, we'd never have entered.
Hitler even mocked FDR to his Reichstag when FDR wrote him a letter asking him to promise not to invade a long list of European countries after taking the Sudetenland.
FDR definitely wanted in and had to find ways to get the American public in.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:14 pm to AggieHank86
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FDR wanted us in the War, but I doubt he had advance notice of Peral Harbor. An attack at Midway or in the Philippines was far more likely. Yamamoto had great big balls.
Check out the mccollum memo
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 11:17 pm to bmy
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False flag to drag the US into a war that the public did not support.
Then dropping nukes on a country that was already negotiating surrender.
This is such a bmy thing to post.
Why, do you ask? Because it's totally false and asinine.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 11:20 am to RazorBroncs
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This is such a bmy thing to post.
Why, do you ask? Because it's totally false and asinine.
Roosevelt's administrative assistant at the time of Pearl Harbor, Jonathan Daniels: "The blow was heavier than he had hoped it would necessarily be. ... But the risks paid off; even the loss was worth the price."
and from the memo:
"It is not believed that in the present state of political opinion the United States government is capable of declaring war against Japan without more ado [...] If by [the elucidated eight-point plan] Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better."
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