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Corporations are the driving force behind globalism

Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:30 pm
If you ever wondered what the financial driving force is behind the push to destroy the nation state and drive the world into a state of open borders, one world government, etc. besides the usual suspects for political reasons.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/why-bank-of-america-cut-ties-with-businesses-operating-detention-centers

An article on Bank of America cutting off business ties with businesses operating the border patrol and ICE facilities.

A very telling quote from their CEO:

quote:

"We need to get immigration right. We need people in this country. We're not creating people fast enough. The population is growing half the rate it was before the financial crisis. We'll grow faster if we have more people."


There's no such thing as American companies anymore. Coke, Nike, Google, Amazon, Apple, whatever. They are not American companies. There's no such concept anymore. Large publicly traded companies have one goal, growth. No amount of money is ever enough. What drives the stock prices higher (as well as executives, who's pay and bonuses are almost entirely tied to stock price) is GROWTH. Constant growth, no matter what. Always grow. Always expand. If you aren't growing, you're dying.

All these corporations know no loyalty to a nation, only to their insane pursuit of unsustainable growth. They hate anything that stands in the way of new markets, new customers, and more growth. They will gladly see the entire US way of life crumble if it means they can grow their revenues a little bit more.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Chaddius
Member since Jun 2019
95 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:35 pm to
Dig deeper
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54230 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:37 pm to
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Bank of America


Piss on BoA. They worried about the population in the states? Maybe they should check their clientele files. The wife tried to use her credit card about six weeks ago. It was denied. She called them and they said she was deceased. Dumbasses. Upside, she didn't receive a statement for her outstanding balance when her bill was normally due.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68171 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:38 pm to
Corporations are little empires of a sort.

This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 5:10 pm
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30464 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:40 pm to
Wouldn’t globalism be the genesis of ruining the free market?

The free market is what gives folks the cash to pay for corporations’ shite.

So I’m not completely convinced about this in a non vacuum environment.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:41 pm to
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All these corporations know no loyalty to a nation,
Corporations are built to make money

Your statement sounds a little bit commie
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:50 pm to
If they enjoy protection by the American military and the American taxpayer, they have an obligation to uphold American values.

That means NOT working with the Chinese government on censorship software, even if it will make them a dirty buck.

If they want to be international companies with no loyalty to anything but profit, fine, but they should get no American legal or taxpayer assistance at all in that case.

These companies try to play it both ways. They are "American" only when they want a handout.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 3:37 pm to
No shite Sherlock.

Told you same, years ago.

Welcome to reality.

I.presume you posted before your fashionable handle, pepe

This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 3:38 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 3:40 pm to
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If they enjoy protection by the American military and the American taxpayer, they have an obligation to uphold American values.
American values are make as much money as you can using every loophole you can

Don't believe me, ask the guy in the white house
Posted by Rocco Lampone
Raleigh, NC
Member since Nov 2010
3051 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 3:54 pm to
Moynihan is very woke. I went to a small group lunch where he spoke recently - sticking up to China to keep them from investing in American banks was about as conservative as he got. Everything else was pro immigration, anti capitalism, excessive regulations, feelings type stuff.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 4:04 pm to
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Corporations are the driving force behind globalism
Too broad of a statement.

I own a corporation, and I can tell you I'm not a driving force behind globalism with my 25 employees designing and managing employee group benefits packages, 401k's, and family retirement planning portfolios.

You're talking about billion dollar multi-national conglomerate monopolies that are part of the Donor Class, who participate in the Military Industrial Complex, and have entire law firms on payroll drawing up physical legislation that makes it's way to corrupted and owned Legislators who pass it for their and their cronies benefit.

98% of "Corporations" and the "Free-Market Capitalist Society" in this country don't fit that profile.

So be careful with your language when trying to educate people. Sometimes the details matter.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 4:16 pm to
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You're talking about billion dollar multi-national conglomerate monopolies that are part of the Donor Class, who participate in the Military Industrial Complex, and have entire law firms on payroll drawing up physical legislation that makes it's way to corrupted and owned Legislators who pass it for their and their cronies benefit. 

98% of "Corporations" and the "Free-Market Capitalist Society" in this country don't fit that profile. 


Understood. But in fairness, marketing typically portrays corporations as you describe. People dont think of your local law or construction company as a Corporation although by definition they are.

So how to distinguish between a company like Exxon vs. your organization. Would Conglomerate be a more accurate term.
Posted by TigerTailsSoup
Member since Sep 2005
10830 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 4:18 pm to
I left BoA a long long time ago
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8546 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 4:21 pm to
Are you barely figuring this out? It's what capitalism does. You want to have the most amount of people available to buy your product.

Why else do you think these corporations whored themselves out last month for pride month? You want your brand to look as welcoming as possible so people of all walks of life can buy your product.

Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 4:24 pm to
Correct I'm referring specifically to corporations with a global reach already, or aspirations of a global reach in the future.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 4:53 pm to
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Understood. But in fairness, marketing typically portrays corporations as you describe. People dont think of your local law or construction company as a Corporation although by definition they are.

So how to distinguish between a company like Exxon vs. your organization. Would Conglomerate be a more accurate term.
I personally would re-phrase the indictment to "Collectivists are the driving force behind globalism".

"Collectivists" encompasses the Donor Class, the Political Establishment, the Military Industrial Complex, the Oligarchs, and the obese Multi-National Conglomerates.

The thing about using "Collectivists" (Collectivism) is it's economically and politically agnostic. It doesn't care if the vehicle is capitalism, socialism, communism, egalitarian, racist, nationalist, populist, totalitarian, theological, or fascist.

It's whatever system is active in this location and can I exploit it for power and wealth, and by any means necessary.


People who think the US can be a better place and solve wealth pooling and inequality and corruption simply by changing the type of economic and political system we run under are ignorant, naive, and/or just idiots.

If we went full blown Socialist, not only would nothing change, but the Collectivists would have an even more efficient means of ensuring their wealth and power by having easier access and more excuses to use force and threats of criminal prosecution to compel people to do things.


The problem isn't "Corporations", it's the laws and regulations that make and enable exploitation, corruption, and cronyism to even be possible.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 5:04 pm to
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Corporations are the driving force behind globalism by PEPE

Duh.
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Large publicly traded companies have one goal, growth.

That's not their "goal", publically traded corps have one legal responsibility - the fiduciary duty to increase shareholder value using whatever legal means at their disposal.

Legal means include:

Investing in legal representation to promote corps rights as citizens - to include free speech.

Investing in legal representation to promote the recognition of campaign contributions as "speech".

Lobbying legislators (that may have been elected, in part, with corp contributions) to pass laws that favor large corps.
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All these corporations know no loyalty to a nation

They shouldn't be expected to as they're not legally bound to be.
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their insane pursuit of unsustainable growth

It's not their insanity, it's their legal responsibility.
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They hate anything that stands in the way of new markets, new customers, and more growth. They will gladly see the entire US way of life crumble if it means they can grow their revenues a little bit more.

Corps don't hate. Think of them like machines, they will do what they are designed to do - no more, no less.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64471 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 5:05 pm to
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American values are make as much money as you can using every loophole you can


Please tell me you don't think that's all we have in American values
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 5:29 pm to
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Please tell me you don't think that's all we have in American values
Well, no, there's perpetual war to prop up the MIC, there's a congress that gets rich off of lobbyist bribes while doing frick all for the people they represent, there's destroying the environment, also caused by greed, there's failing schools, failing families, for-profit prisons..

I could go on, but I'd rather hear what you think American Values are

I just thank the Creator every day that my life is far removed from almost all of that stuff
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 7/22/19 at 5:34 pm to
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Corporations are the driving force behind globalism


They are the ones paying the kickbacks to our corrupt , inept and incompetent lawmakers .

D.C. is a shithole.
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