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re: Cool Video Describing Ancient Christian Liturgy

Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:50 pm to
I’m not misinterpreting anything. I’m accepting the authority that was given to Peter and the The Church. Jesus is the authority in my life and such when he commanded apostles to hear confession and lose and bind sins I do that. Who interprets the Bible for you? You? You are your own God? Your preacher? What if y’all disagree? Just jump to another church? Another denomination? The Protestant world is lost
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:54 pm to
And there’s the heart of the problem. Same with the Pharisees. Only they can interpret the Bible. Only they know the rules. You would sooner leave the man to die in the ditch if it were the Sabbath. It’s like you have no idea what Jesus preached. Even when the word is right there for you to consume. I doubt you even read the passages presented. You hate Protestants. That’s something you need to reconcile.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 5:55 pm
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
2947 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:55 pm to
Answer the question. Who interprets scripture for you?
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:03 pm to
Who interprets scripture for you? There’s a reason it’s called a walk with Christ. There is no moral relativism in the Bible. Again, if the Catholic Church misinterprets the Bible, you have no way of knowing if that’s the case. You are draped in that possibility are you not? Or is your claim that the Church and not the word is infallible?
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
2947 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:09 pm to
The same Church that was established by Jesus Christ on earth is who. The same early church fathers that did exactly what I am doing now. Read the early church fathers. I don’t hate Protestants. Just pray you come into full communion with the Church. I believe you can be saved outside of our church. The Church doesn’t save, Jesus does.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:11 pm to
So am I not saved by your estimation?
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
2947 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:13 pm to
I didn’t say that. I don’t know if you are or are not. I pray you are. I’m not the judge of that.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4106 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:15 pm to
You know who is right? Do you need a priest’s interdiction to be saved?
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 6:17 pm
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
2947 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:20 pm to
No but I am so thankful for their guidance and their leadership. Thankful they lead us to the Body and Blood of Jesus on earth. You don’t have that. Remember, it’s just a symbol for you.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4106 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:24 pm to
You think I don’t have examples in my life? You don’t think I have pastors, friends and neighbors? Is their advice somehow unworthy because of the clothes they wear? Again, your adherence to the cloth is the reason we went centuries in the dark. The veil is torn yet your actions choose to stitch it up. It’s weird. It’s wrong, but Jesus is your Lord too so in the end we will both end up in the same place. We can at least both be thankful for that.
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1656 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:30 pm to
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Who interprets scripture for you? There’s a reason it’s called a walk with Christ. There is no moral relativism in the Bible. Again, if the Catholic Church misinterprets the Bible, you have no way of knowing if that’s the case. You are draped in that possibility are you not? Or is your claim that the Church and not the word is infallible?


How do you, as a Protestant, know you are interpreting the Scripture correctly? How do you know you even have the right Scripture to begin with?
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:30 pm to
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Answer the question. Who interprets scripture for you?

Why would anyone craft a manual meant for everyone but make it so cryptic that only a scholar could unravel its meaning? That’d be absurd, wouldn’t it? I’m sorry, but I don’t think God operates that way. If the divine intention was to guide humanity through sacred texts or teachings, it stands to reason they’d be clear enough for the average person to grasp without needing an expert to translate every line. A message meant to inspire, instruct, or unite shouldn’t be locked behind layers of complexity that exclude most people. I believe a wise and loving God would communicate in a way that’s accessible, inviting reflection and understanding from all, not just a select few with specialized knowledge.
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1656 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:32 pm to
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You seem to not be able to grasp the point of his sacrifice and effect it had. Why is that?


That's one hell of a logical jump from being shown that liturgical worship is biblical
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
2947 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:38 pm to
You assume a lot. I didn’t say you didn’t have good examples in your life. Somewhere in your life a Catholic offended you. The only way you can have your existence is to demonize the Catholic Church. It’s the only reason for your denomination. You can let that go.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4106 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:39 pm to
You seem to have your hooks into particular liturgical worship. Where do you draw the line? From church founded acceptable practice? From history? Same as Pharisees, same as the Romans then. When practice becomes more important than the word, you are lost. When you interject hierarchy upon Jesus and his teachings, you are lost. That being said, we all believe Jesus died on the Christ to offer the perfect sacrifice and to pave our ability to be one with God in the afterlife. So that’s something we can all agree on.
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
2947 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:40 pm to
Hahahaah. Who said it was cryptic. You Protestant folks are a weird bunch. Literally you can show up at a mass and begin. It’s not as hard as you want it to be. It’s just not willy nilly concerts smoke and fun talks. You want easy. It’s not supposed to be easy.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4106 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:42 pm to
No, I just see the Catholic Church as one who biffed the end game and with it have wrecked a lot of terror for hundreds of years because of it. That’s not a good look. I highly recommend you listen to John MacArthur and his view on Catholicism. I highly doubt you will not but would love to be proven wrong.

Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4106 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:43 pm to
Because believe it or not, there is absolute truth.
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
2947 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:44 pm to
I was Protestants for almost 30 years. I know your routine. John McCarthur is one of the biggest heretics I’ve ever watched.


Heretic
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4106 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:47 pm to
A Catholic labeling a Christian a heretic? Some things never change.
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