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re: Christian Artists Could Be Fined, Jailed for Refusing to Make Gay Wedding Cards

Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:25 am to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:25 am to
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what's a gay wedding card?

Should be /thread, but they'll keep flailing. Watch.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:30 am to
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what's a gay wedding?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:31 am to
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what's a gay wedding?
You tell us. You're the ones who label weddings "gay weddings."

Nice try.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61368 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:34 am to
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You tell us. You're the ones who label weddings "gay weddings."

Nice try.


No, I know what a wedding is, or rather was, but a rogue SCOTUS passed legislation from the bench introducing it as a right and so muddied the waters and introduced a new definition.

You tell me.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:35 am to
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rogue SCOTUS passed legislation from the bench
melt
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61368 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:36 am to
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melt


How old are you? Really?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:37 am to
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How old are you? Really?

If two men marrying each other bothers you, you don't get to question the maturity of other adults.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61368 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:41 am to
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If two men marrying each other bothers you, you don't get to question the maturity of other adults.


I don't care what two men do. I care what you force upon others who don't agree with it from a well established religious objection standpoint. I care that our SCOTUS became an unelected legislating body. Why don't you care about religious freedom, or the free market? Why must you force your bigoted views upon religious people who obejct religiously? Why can't you just respect them and leave them be?

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20566 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:44 am to
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Those religious beliefs - and the practice of them - are actually PROTECTED by the Constitution:

"The Free Exercise Clause is the accompanying clause with the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. The Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause together read:

“ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

My religion is pretty kosher with slavery... why are you assholes oppressing me and my beliefs??? I want to beat one unmercifully, but not quite to death. Nor do I want to knock out a tooth or eye... cause that's a ticket to their freedom.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19815 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:44 am to
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I'm not a fan of laws like these


Your post history tells quite a different story.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:47 am to
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I don't care what two men do.
Reconcile that with your conscience, not with me.
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I care what you force upon others who don't agree with it from a well established religious objection standpoint.
Businesses do not have religious beliefs.
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I care that our SCOTUS became an unelected legislating body.
Melt
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Why don't you care about religious freedom,
Melt
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or the free market?
Melt
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Why must you force your bigoted views upon religious people who obejct religiously?
Melt
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Why can't you just respect them and leave them be?
Melt

Silly, all of it.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:47 am to
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Your post history tells quite a different story.

Link?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76928 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:47 am to
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The government should let the market decide, not artifical prop up or, in this case, shut down a business.


It can't when an activist SCOTUS rules that marriage is a human right. We were screwed the minute that ruling was made, but everyone on facebook posted rainbow tinted profile pics, so it was cool.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 9:06 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:49 am to
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It can't when an activist SCOTUS rules that marriage is a human right.
Marriage was a human right before SCOTUS existed. It's been a human right as long as there have been humans.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62645 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:52 am to
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Marriage was a human right before SCOTUS existed.


Nothing was stopping anyone from calling themselves married prior to the SCOTUS decision. Regardless, that does not give anyone the right to force others to serve them.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76928 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:53 am to
Oh really. Who bestows the "human right to be married" upon all people?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:54 am to
Regardless of anything you say, the 14th Amendment was ratified by all 50 states, so we'll be doing what it says. Hence, marriage is a right available to parties who meet basic qualifications, sex/gender not being one of them.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:56 am to
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Oh really. Who bestows the "human right to be married" upon all people?

Our Creator. Liberty is a basic right. Hence, we have the right to marry. We are humans. If we haven't the right to marry, we are beneath humanness.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62645 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:57 am to
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Regardless of anything you say, the 14th Amendment was ratified by all 50 states, so we'll be doing what it says. Hence, marriage is a right available to parties who meet basic qualifications, sex/gender not being one of them.


Does not give anyone the right to force anyone to serve them.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:57 am to
Ok.

ETA: Oh, I see what you're talking about. Nobody is being forced to serve anyone. Running a business is voluntary. If your religious beliefs prevent you from running a business that is compliant with pertinent laws, you have the right to stop running your business.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 8:59 am
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