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re: ‘Cheap manufacturing be damned’: Sentiment builds for moving U.S. companies out of China
Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:31 pm to greygoose
Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:31 pm to greygoose
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Assuming manufacturing practices are 1 to 1, that $1000 iphone will now be $2000.
No....
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Most people do not understand why manufacturing moved out of this country in the first place.
It's you who is not understanding.
Business left here for several reason. In the 50s, dems raised the taxes up past 50% for businesses and that continued through until Reagan. He cut it to 34% in 88. He set the stage for a more level playing field and the Bush family screwed the idea up.
Businesses were being strangled by the federal gov and they paid off politicians to be able to move to China.
The labor costs and lack of taxes by China vs the USA made them TRILLIONS, but it slowly cost the American people jobs and put us at risk.
YOu need to educate yourself on what is going on, not what you have been told to think by the likes of IB90PROOF.
Trump has lowered it to 21% and wants it lowered more. He then put the same tariffs China had on the USA. More level. So now we are back to PRE WWII levels and business are coming home and moving out of CHINA.
LEARN!
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:32 pm to I B Freeman
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You people want the government to pick and choose where companies can do business? You want to walk away from access to a third of the population of the world?
You are a sad person. You have defended China in the MIDST of the F UCKERS threatening to cut off the USA from needed DRUGS!
SCREW YOU POS!
Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:40 pm to greygoose
Missed this post by you... still setting up the strawmen and knocking them down... and not even doing that very convincingly.
2 primary ways to lower production costs: Increase efficiency per employee or find cheaper employees. Multi-national corporations have almost exclusively chosen to do the latter rather than the former, to the detriment of both employees and consumers.
I agree with this... yet you contradict yourself by saying Trump is working to bring manufacturing back to the country and simultaneously saying we'll be paying a lot more at check out. The last three years simply do not bear out this ALLEGED increase in goods and products that we have heard about ad nausea as it concerns trade policy (tariffs, etc.).
So you admit that people are willing to pay more for a better quality product? Great, we're on the same page, yet again.
Let consumers decide, excellent. (You know clothes can be made in the US AND China simultaneously with various quality/price points, giving the consumer increased options and leaving it to the market to decide?)
I appreciate that you say I'm clueless while simultaneously never answering the central points I make and agreeing with me in many ways.
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Wow, I wonder if any of these multi-billion dollar companies have thought about that???
2 primary ways to lower production costs: Increase efficiency per employee or find cheaper employees. Multi-national corporations have almost exclusively chosen to do the latter rather than the former, to the detriment of both employees and consumers.
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Taxes, labor, and regulations are why manufacturing has left this country.
I agree with this... yet you contradict yourself by saying Trump is working to bring manufacturing back to the country and simultaneously saying we'll be paying a lot more at check out. The last three years simply do not bear out this ALLEGED increase in goods and products that we have heard about ad nausea as it concerns trade policy (tariffs, etc.).
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That's exactly what will happen if costs exceed the willingness of the consumer to purchase a product at a price that includes a profit margin. Cheap phones are readily available, but a lot of people choose to purchase better made, more expensive ones.
So you admit that people are willing to pay more for a better quality product? Great, we're on the same page, yet again.
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Same can be said about clothing. You either want good, or you want cheap. Just depends on your definition of those terms as to whether you buy or not.
Let consumers decide, excellent. (You know clothes can be made in the US AND China simultaneously with various quality/price points, giving the consumer increased options and leaving it to the market to decide?)
I appreciate that you say I'm clueless while simultaneously never answering the central points I make and agreeing with me in many ways.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:40 pm to BayBengal9
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Let consumers decide, excellent.
Great, so let's just quit altering the price paid on imports via distortionary import taxes. Let the consumer decide, excellent.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:59 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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It will be more than a few cents more and the majority of Americans buy in price. It sucks, but it's reality.
Agreed, but what if we rolled back the 1986 Tip O'Neal tax laws and stopped the double tax on dividends and gave companies back the tax incentives to buy new tools and materials we might see a better life emerge for us all.
Tips crappy war on business is what started all this shell game and moving companies out of the country.
I remember when a pair of duck head khakis cost $30 back in 1980. That's like $200 today we all had them?
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 6:01 pm
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