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Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:23 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73566 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:23 am to
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My only position is that none of them raped the woman

You invented a new crime


Like that crime of collusion with Russian
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17099 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:36 am to
quote:

The facts of the case


You didn't present any facts to support your conclusion.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 6:00 pm to
Wrong
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19449 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 6:34 pm to
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Did it mention that the fact the DNA didn't belong to the boys was presented at both trials? Fools on the MTV board tried to pretend people in 1989 didn't understand what "the sperm we found belongs to someone else" meant.


At the time cops didn't really care much about DNA evidence since it was so new and was not admissible in court. Today, they would have done a through search of the scene of the crime in great detail. There was all kinds of evidence, many confessions and finger pointing among the young "wilding" thugs.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19449 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 6:43 pm to
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My only position is that none of them raped the woman You invented a new crime


The problem with that assumption is that DNA testing was of little use in those days. It was very new and it was not admissible in court so the cops then weren't very interested in gathering DNA.

The young thugs ratted each other out even before they were questioned. They didn't know that even if they didn't do the rape themselves that holding her down for others is still legally rape.

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This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 6:44 pm
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17099 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 6:46 pm to
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Wrong


No facts in your post either.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35478 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 7:06 pm to
If they were innocent of the rape charges, they put themselves in a terrible position by 'wilding out' in the park in the first place. When you spend your evening throwing bricks at taxi cabs and assaulting random people (one victim of theirs was described as looking as if his head had been dipped in blood) you take on the risk of being accused of other violent crimes that happened at the same time and in the immediate vicinity.

So even if they didn't rape her... oh fricking well. Don't be a violent thug and your chances of being wrongly accused of being a violent thug drop dramatically.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17099 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:19 pm to
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So even if they didn't rape her... oh fricking well


You know what your dumbfrick logic results in...more victims...and that is exactly what happened here.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:22 pm to
Nope...
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30109 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:24 pm to
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So even if they didn't rape her... oh fricking well. Don't be a violent thug and your chances of being wrongly accused of being a violent thug drop dramatically

Yeah that line of thinking should definitely be avoided. It's quite similar to a line of thinking that is driving the left's war against Trump in the personal realm.

ETA...actually, not just personal realm, all realms.
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 8:29 pm
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17099 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Nope


Try a full sentence.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35478 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

You know what your dumbfrick logic results in...more victims...and that is exactly what happened here.

I was giving my reasoning for not feeling bad for the CP5, regardless of whether or not they were wrongly accused of the rape. They earned their prison time on the other charges, alone. That doesn't mean that I'm glad the actual rapist went free or that justice was necessarily served in the case of the rape. Try to keep up, Dr Logic.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35478 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:37 pm to
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Yeah that line of thinking should definitely be avoided. It's quite similar to a line of thinking that is driving the left's war against Trump in the personal realm.
Are you guys under the impression that the rape is the only thing they were convicted of? I was speaking as to why I don't feel bad for them.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50410 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:42 pm to
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You didn't present any facts to support your conclusion.


I actually have posted a few facts in this thread, but I laid out everything that led me to my conclusion on the MTV board. I've already stated I'll post it here when I get the time. Will probably be tomorrow when I have down time at work.

What have you added to the discussion?
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:46 pm to
Funny that those pussies couldn't handle facts they didn't like so they cried to an admin and had the thread locked.

I guess that's why they are too chicken shite to show their faces over here, a forum where dissenting opinions are allowed.

Reading through the MTV board makes it easier to understand how people fall for CNN and Russian propaganda/dossiers.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56254 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:48 pm to
Yeah, it intrigued me. But anything that glamorizes their actions or paints them as anything but thugs is inaccurate.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30109 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:49 pm to
Clarification understood. The oh fricking well addition made it possible to take it otherwise. Perhaps "rape or no rape, they still earned their punishment on the other convictions" or something similar.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35478 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:52 pm to
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Clarification understood. The oh fricking well addition made it possible to take it otherwise. Perhaps "rape or no rape, they still earned their punishment on the other convictions" or something similar.
Fair enough. That was my point.

They robbed and beat at least two other people that night. One of them severely.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Try a full sentence.


Ok: I said nope.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30109 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

Clarification understood. The oh fricking well addition made it possible to take it otherwise. Perhaps "rape or no rape, they still earned their punishment on the other convictions" or something similar.
Fair enough. That was my point.

They robbed and beat at least two other people that night. One of them severely.

Im with ya
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