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re: Central Incorporation vs. St George (EBR)
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:44 am to BeepNode
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:44 am to BeepNode
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Do you have a non-made up number? The EBRSO is doing a great job in SG, but their budget is a bit opaque. Even though SG is a much safer area, 1/4th BRPDs budget seems reasonable, if not generous, for these reasons:
1. SG is over 1/3rd the population of BR.
2. SGPD will have about 75% as much land to cover as the BRPD.
3. Surely, SG would pay higher starting salaries than the BRPD? EBRSO does.
So like I said, you have no clue.
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:47 am to doubleb
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you have no clue
Which statements are incorrect? Please enlighten me on how much the SGPD will cost and show your work.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:48 am to BeepNode
You’re still here dude? I embarrassed you last night. You’re clueless.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:52 am to BeepNode
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You are remarkably dense
Pot meet kettle.
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The city of BR pays extra for its own police patrol as well. Just not that much.
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You are sky screaming about a $15m imbalance which is less than 2% of the EBR budget. It's just not going to make a big difference.
Tell that to the cows me comier and that dumb bitch broom. They’re the ones fighting tooth and nail to not loose their cash cow that pays the cities bills and keeps the lights on.
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Dumbasses like yourself are not going to be happy until taxes are higher for everyone.
As I said last night. When was the last 5 year period taxes DID NOT GO UP in Baton Rouge.
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Keep bitching about police funding and watch Central and SG have to fund 100% of their own police protection which will lead to increased taxes. Somehow EBRSO taxes will not be lowered to offset.
I’m perfectly okay with that.
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The BR metro area will NEVER be Austin or Dallas. St. George will never be Sandy Springs. Corporations are not going to come in droves to setup their white collar operations just because you solved the problem of police financing gimmicks. It's 100% delusional to believe otherwise.
Emotional drivel.
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Sandy Springs would be nothing without Atlanta being a major regional hub with a shitload of university graduates from which to draw from.
More emotional drivel.
If you want me to continue to cock slap you, just say so.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:57 am to MrJimBeam
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St George pays for BRPD and gets nothing back. How would you feel if you paid for St George PD and getting nothing back? It makes no sense.
This isn't really true. If someone from St. George goes into the city proper and gets mugged or into a fender bender, a BRPD officer will respond.
Also, St George residents do not pay additional tax to fund BRPD. That is just a lie. Sales taxes collected at retail located in the St. George area go into the general fund some of which goes to BRPD. Those are the monies Broome has spoken about losing. But those taxes are not paid by St. George residents exclusively. They are paid by anyone who shops at those stores. You don't think people from Kennilworth or even Bankstown shop at Target?
When I go to Target after the incorporation is finalized, will the sales taxes I pay be subsidizing St. George and services I will never receive as a Baton Rouge resident. Using your logic they would, and carrying out your logic that would be wrong.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 9:59 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:01 am to BeepNode
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They will demand that police protection in SG and Central not come out of general funds to the EBRSO.
The sheriff is not paid via the general fund for patrols.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:04 am to BlackAdam
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This isn't really true. If someone from St. George goes into the city proper and gets mugged or into a fender bender, a BRPD officer will respond.
Strrrrreeeeeeeeeecccchhhhhhhhhhh arrrrrrrmmmmmmmmstrrrroooonnnggggggggg
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Also, St George residents do not pay additional tax to fund BRPD. That is just a lie.
20% of the brpd budget comes right from st George. The incorporation of st George will directly lead to a 20% loss in the budget of brpd.
Ergo, st George pays 20% of the brpd budget.
No one said it’s an additional tax to pay for the city police you stupid frick.
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Those are the monies Broome has spoken about losing. But those taxes are not paid by St. George residents exclusively.
That is St. George’s money, hoss.
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They are paid by anyone who shops at those stores. You don't think people from Kennilworth or even Bankstown shop at Target?
Cool. They are shopping in st George. Therefore, that money BELONGS TO ST GEORGE.
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When I go to Target after the incorporation is finalized, will the sales taxes I pay be subsidizing St. George and services I will never receive as a Baton Rouge resident. Using your logic they would, and carrying out your logic that would be wrong.
If I shop in the city of Baton Rouge, that tax revenue is for the city of Baton Rouge.
If I shop in Atlanta, that money is for the city of Atlanta.
If I shop in st George, that money... is for... st fricking George.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 10:06 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:04 am to BeepNode
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Which statements are incorrect? Please enlighten me on how much the SGPD will cost and show your work.
Your statements did not back up your claim that sales taxes would have to be raised 3/4s of a cent. You have no facts to back that up.
Look at the proposed SG budget for the cost of their PD.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:08 am to beerJeep
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Eat shite, me comier, you ugly arse slut.
She's my neighbor
I've never met her though.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:10 am to The People
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Why wasn’t Central’s incorporation and exit from the EBR’s school system as contested?
Central's incorporation was labeled racist and contested. The biggest difference is that it was seen as somewhat revenue neutral for BR which is the reason that it wasn't as contested as STG.
I grew up in Central and it's been a good thing for that community. It's grown quite a bit in the past 20 years or so. I hardly recognize it now.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 10:20 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:11 am to beerJeep
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20% of the brpd budget comes right from st George. The incorporation of st George will directly lead to a 20% loss in the budget of brpd.
Ergo, st George pays 20% of the brpd budget.
No one said it’s an additional tax to pay for the city police you stupid frick.
That is a myopic view, and deep down you know it. It is really sad how petty you are, unfortunately that is pretty typical of the people who support St. George.
Are you capable of disagreeing with someone without immediately jumping into the ad hominem? Can you actually make an argument or are you only capable of lashing out?
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:15 am to doubleb
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The sheriff is not paid via the general fund for patrols
EBRSO has its own general funds since it puts almost everything into one bucket. People in BR pay into this fund through property taxes and that is used for police protection and criminal investigations in SG while the BRPD handles those duties in BR.
I don’t think BR is subsidizing SG as much as SG is subsidizing BR though. SG is paying around $18m to BRPD through the city-parish general fund. I don’t know how much BR pays EBRSO to protect SG. We would need to see a breakdown of how money is allocated within the EBRSO budget.
BR and MOP aren’t just going to roll over after SG stops subsidizing BR. No, they’re going to try and chip away at anything they pay for that SG uses. EBRSO will be a bone of contention.
It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out as EBRSO taxes go up for renewals. One is next year and another is in 2023.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:17 am to BlackAdam
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That is a myopic view, and deep down you know it
Not at all. CITY police are to be paid, in full, by the CITY they patrol. I’m not sure how you find that to be a weird view.
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unfortunately that is pretty typical of the people who support St. George.
By all means, let’s continue the decades old pattern of the middle class fleeing the parish for ascension and Livingston instead of trying to keep them in the parish.
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Are you capable of disagreeing with someone without immediately jumping into the ad hominem? Can you actually make an argument or are you only capable of lashing out?
Oh, am I too brash for you? Get over it cupcake. If you can’t handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.
I’ve yet to say anything but hard hitting facts. Sorry your feelings get hurt.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:17 am to doubleb
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Look at the proposed SG budget for the cost of their PD.
Surely you do not believe that police protection will only cost $4m?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:19 am to BeepNode
Dude.... the city of Baton Rouge pays into the sheriffs office..... and they fricking receive patrols and other services provided by the sheriffs office.....
Again. A little slower this time.
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I don’t know how much BR pays EBRSO to protect SG
Again. A little slower this time.
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:21 am to BeepNode
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Surely you do not believe that police protection will only cost $4m?
Surely you see that they are adding an ADDITIONAL 4 million to what they ALREADY PAY.
The police protection they receive now is perfectly acceptable. The police will be reviving 4 million EXTRA for even MORE patrols which will benefit not only st George, but the ENTIRE parish.
I honestly feel like I’m talking to a child. Do you understand how this works little buddy?
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 10:22 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:23 am to beerJeep
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Cool. They are shopping in st George. Therefore, that money BELONGS TO ST GEORGE.
Both of his analogies miserably fail and, on top of that, he misspelled "Kenilworth."
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:24 am to BeepNode
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EBRSO has its own general funds since it puts almost everything into one bucket. People in BR pay into this fund through property taxes and that is used for police protection and criminal investigations in SG while the BRPD handles those duties in BR.
I don’t think BR is subsidizing SG as much as SG is subsidizing BR though. SG is paying around $18m to BRPD through the city-parish general fund. I don’t know how much BR pays EBRSO to protect SG. We would need to see a breakdown of how money is allocated within the EBRSO budget.
BR and MOP aren’t just going to roll over after SG stops subsidizing BR. No, they’re going to try and chip away at anything they pay for that SG uses. EBRSO will be a bone of contention.
It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out as EBRSO taxes go up for renewals. One is next year and another is in 2023.
All of that is fine and good, but none of that backs up your assertion that SG will have to raise sales taxes 3/4 of a cent to fund their police department.
Admit you just pulled numbers out of thin air and move on.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:24 am to beerJeep
You are right about being an embarrassment.
BRPD primarily provides police protection in BR. EBRSO presence in terms of protection and investigations is minimal.
BR subsidizes police protection in SG. This is a fact.
You are going to have to be able to separate out the various services that EBRSO provides or else just shut up and let the adults do the talking.
BRPD primarily provides police protection in BR. EBRSO presence in terms of protection and investigations is minimal.
BR subsidizes police protection in SG. This is a fact.
You are going to have to be able to separate out the various services that EBRSO provides or else just shut up and let the adults do the talking.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:27 am to beerJeep
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The police protection they receive now is perfectly acceptable.
Yeah, because BR is subsidizing it.
Does $4m offset the subsidies? Maybe. Who knows?
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