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re: Can we all agree that Hillary and Obama betrayed our country with the uranium deal?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:30 pm to Dale51
Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:30 pm to Dale51
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If it was purely a financial deal, why was a sample of it shown to the Russians? Does anyone know who delivered the sample and how this was done??
You must be a liberal. Expecting handouts.
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:30 pm to Cruiserhog
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Neither Rosatom or Uranium One had license to export the material.
Can they sell to US entities that can export? What stops them from offering a lucrative deal for influence over its destination?
Say a US entity that can export will receive X tons of uranium at lower price if they sell X tons of current inventory to someone that can sell to someone else that puts it somewhere Uranium One technically can't sell
I don't know the answer but the fact the Russia owns 20% of US production capabilities gives them more local "influence" than I like. They could even slow production/export to our allies if they desire down the line.
Had the Clinton foundation not received X millions from people involved it would seem a lot more innocent as well. If it was a logical move that benefited the US why was that necessary?
DNC paid a law firm that paid Fusion that paid a Brit that paid Russians. They didn't pay Russians but knew what they wanted and where the money would end up to get it. There are always loopholes to meet a desired end if you have capital / something of value. Russia now has something of value to the US but i don't know if the US was compensated or just Hillary
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:30 pm to frogtown
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I find it amazing that this deal magically went through. I don't get it.
Look at who was on the CFIUS board at the time.
All either received direct payments or payments second hand through the CGI.
They UNANIMOUSLY voted to approve.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:33 pm to culsutiger
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This is a falsehood. I have already debunked it in this thread, but you are at least the fourth person I have seen this evening promulgating it.
No. No you haven't.
The ultimate resting place is here. You know it. But, continue with your red herring.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:34 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:46 pm to culsutiger
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Make that 5 liars now.
What did i lie about? Be specific.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:47 pm to Lsuchs
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Had the Clinton foundation not received X millions from people involved it would seem a lot more innocent as well. If it was a logical move that benefited the US why was that necessary?
This is the most preposterous of all this nonsense. It rivals Seth Rich and some of the more dumb 90's Clinton conspiracies.
So Clinton, as a private citizen, got a donation to her foundation from a person that ultimately divested all of his holdings three years before the deal, but supposedly made these donations knowing that in the future Hillary would lose her bid for president, become secretary of state, and than sign off on an ownership approval deal neither party had any knowledge of years after. Some other donors donated to the foundation as Secretary of State. That supposedly was to establish a quid pro quo deal. A deal vetted by a review process, by the way, we have zero evidence she ever had involvement in to begin with, just people below her that typically serve the function of reviewing this stuff. A review process that involved roughly a dozen agencies and the president had veto power over their approval.
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:52 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:52 pm to culsutiger
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Make that 5 liars now.
Be careful on that moral high ground.
You're right in that the uranium went to Canada. It was carried by RSB, which does have a controlled export license. That license allows it to be processed in Canada and returned to the US. Any uranium that left the US on a restricted license requires the approval of the US govnerment before it can be transferred to a third country.
link to license
Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:55 pm to culsutiger
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A Uranium One spokeswoman, Donna Wichers, said 25 percent had gone to Western Europe and Japan
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The licensee is authorized to export a cumulative total of 12,000,000.0 kilograms natural uranium in the form of uranium ore concentrate. The uranium authorized for export is to be returned to the United States. If it is to be transferred to another (non-US) ultimate consignee not listed on this license, Canada must obtain US prior approval before the material is re-transferred.
From page 1 of the license
Posted on 10/31/17 at 6:57 pm to boosiebadazz
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:00 pm to culsutiger
Because I had read the parent company didn’t have an export license but I didn’t know it was transported to Canada. Simple ignorance, but how fortuitous that there’s still a paper trail that it was all done on the up and up.
Now have you been telling the whole story this whole time, or did you just learn something about RSB’s license?
Now have you been telling the whole story this whole time, or did you just learn something about RSB’s license?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:09 pm to bonhoeffer45
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The New York Times reported in 2015 that “as the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation.”
Bills speech was in 2010
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:09 pm to boosiebadazz
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:15 pm to culsutiger
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What sort of rhetorical advantage did you hope to gain by saying that uranium couldn't be exported?
1. I thought it was the truth until presented with facts that it wasn’t;
2. The insinuation is CFIUS/Clinton put our national security at issue by allowing the Russians to possess the uranium and transport it to whom they please. As a matter of fact, that is not what happened as we have a pretty robust regulatory process to make sure it’s only exported to countries we allow it to be if it goes to Canada for processing.
Glad we could flesh all this out for our readers, though.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:15 pm to Lsuchs
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Bills speech was in 2010
And what?
There is still nothing in the way of evidence this was a quid pro quo arrangement.
There isnt even evidence Clinton was involved in this review process.
There is zero evidence the deal only got passed because of payments made to Clinton. Which in and of itself is ridiculous given how many staffers and agencies would of needed to be coerced to go against their interests. As the implication is this review would of never passed without these payments corrupting Clinton who than forced everyone involved to go along.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:29 pm to boosiebadazz
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The insinuation is CFIUS/Clinton put our national security as issue by allowing the Russians to possess the uranium and transport it to whom they please. As a matter of fact, that is not what happened as we have a pretty robust regulatory process to make sure it’s only exported to countries we allow it to be if it goes to Canada for processing.
"If" the Russians wanted to cripple our country without launching a nuke the way to do it is to build a nuke here in this country without having to smuggle it in. That might be close to being an impossible task, but why in hell would you give them the chance? I would not want Russians anywhere near yellow cake in this country.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:30 pm to Old Sarge
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Can we all agree that Hillary and Obama betrayed our country with the uranium deal?
He also sold guns to the Mexican Cartels and let in all the Muslim Terrorists.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:34 pm to Old Sarge
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we all agree that Hillary and Obama betrayed our country with the uranium deal
This reminds me of all the scrap metal we sold Japan for it to comeback as a Naval Armada and Jap Zero's
This is no fking different, none
Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:35 pm to frogtown
The Russians didn’t staff the mine. They simply owned the legal rights to the uranium.
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