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re: Can anybody tell me where Trump has gone wrong enough to be impeached?

Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:58 pm to
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He picked Jeff Sessions as his AG. He thought he would make a token appointment to appease the establishment. Believe he realizes his mistake now, but its too late. Sessions is already turning against President Trump as we speak. I'm beginning to believe Sessions is the author of this anonymous anti-Trump NYT Op-Ed.


you are not familiar with the claims of the op ed.

And you malign sessions. He would never interfere with the executive office. Stealing a paper off his desk.

Sessions doesn't work in the white house.

Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 4:02 pm to
Because Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, and Seth Meyers say so. They are experts and we should all bow down and worship them and believe everything they say.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 4:03 pm to
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I'm not sure how anyone can think Trump going after California's ability to regulate vehicle emissions could possibly be a good thing for this country. 


It will reduce costs for manufacturers. Bottom.line for stockholders.

Nevermind the increased cost of medical issues or quality of life.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 4:05 pm to
Trump hasn’t done shite about the “swamp”.

He hasn’t really tried.

If it’s demonstrated that there was any contact between the Trump campaign and foreign interests with the purpose of aiding the campaign, federal law was violated.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted by LeauxCountryTigah
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 4:58 pm to
I sure can!

1. Obstructing Justice - his repeated attempts to interfere in the Russia investigation...if he is innocent of all wrong doing why not just let it play out and the truth be revealed? (Non-conspiratorial answers only please)
2. Failing to uphold his oath of office - his constant attacks on freedom of the press is a direct attack against the 1st Amendment of the Constitution.
3. Violations of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution - Golf outings at his own Hotels is funneling tax money into his business that he has not divested from. Because Trump never divested from his business interests, he violates the Constitution every time the Trump Organization has business dealings with foreign or American government officials. Do you notice how he does not go to Marthas Vineyard or Camp David when taking time off? Always a Trump property to the tune of for every 4.2 days of his presidency he has spent 1 day at a Trump property.
4. Trump tried to cover up his campaign’s contacts with a Russian national at the Trump Tower meeting which, at very least, constituted a violation of federal law. He personally dictated a cover statement to DJTJ that the meeting was about adoptions when DJTJ's own released emails clearly state the meeting was about receiving negative information on their political opponent from a hostile foreign government.
5. Abuse of pardon power - Joe Arpaio was convicted for contempt of court after ignoring a court order that he stop detaining and searching people based on the color of their skin, which constitutes a violation of their constitutional rights. Trumps pardon of this man violates the 5th Amendment of the Constitution.
6. Advocating Violence and Undermining Equal Protection Under the Law - When Trump gave cover to the neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville and murdered a protester, he violated his obligation to protect the citizenry against domestic violence. When Trump encouraged police officers to rough up people they have under arrest, he violated his obligation to oversee faithful execution of the laws. When Trump shared anti-Muslim content on Twitter, he violated his obligation to uphold equal protection of the laws.
7. Directing Law Enforcement to Investigate and Prosecute Political Adversaries for Improper and Unjustifiable Purposes.

And if these don't convince you (which they won't)just give it a few days and he will add more to the list...and a few days later he will add more. This man only cares about how this position of power can further enrich himself. You Trumpers just obviously don't know a con-man when you see one. He is playing off your hate and fears and when all is said and done, and the undeniable truth about this man is revealed (and it will be), you will ask yourself how it was you never saw it for what it really was. But as for me...I will be happy to have our national sanity and my fellow Americans returned to us and for our country to become that "shining light on the hill" once again.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 5:01 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:03 pm to
Muh Emoluments!
Posted by LeauxCountryTigah
Her Nether Regions
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:16 pm to
Lol...lets see if you're still laughing after the impeachment and subsequent criminal proceedings
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:19 pm to
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If what we read Friday is true president commanded generals to assassinate leaders of countries.


Don't dodge with "if" bullshite. Name some concrete things proven that he has done.

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Cohen confessed to bribing a hooker to keep it out of the campaign. Cohen says trump knew.


Whether Trump knew or not, it's not illegal.

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There are more still.


"More"? You have yet to provide one solid thing. Your entire stance is built on supposition supported only by personal bias.

If there are so many then finding just one shouldn't be so difficult.

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New York is suing. New York ag asserts tax fraud. Both stare and federal.


Nothing proven yet. Also, this is against his charity (if I remember correctly), not him personally. It may well tie back to him, but then again it may not (it's really going to depend on how involved he was with it).
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:20 pm to
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He is an unmoored, classless piece of shite with the restraint and general demeanor of an 11 year old child who apparently has to be handled as such.


Whether true or not, it's not a crime. Try again.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:24 pm to
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I hoping for Democrat control of one chamber with a slight GOP edge in the other.




Why? What is it that a Democratic House could do that isn't already being done?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:28 pm to
Now that is a quality sky scream moment
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:10 pm to
House actually do it's duty
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:14 pm to
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1. Obstructing Justice - his repeated attempts to interfere in the Russia investigation...if he is innocent of all wrong doing why not just let it play out and the truth be revealed? (Non-conspiratorial answers only please)


What specific actions has he taken that have obstructed justice?

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2. Failing to uphold his oath of office - his constant attacks on freedom of the press is a direct attack against the 1st Amendment of the Constitution.


No, it's not. The President is covered by the First Amendment just as you are, just as I am and the same as the press. Until he takes actual action (like maybe tapping phone lines of the AP, a reporter, a reporter's family, etc) then there is no infraction and I challenge you to find a legal ruling showing otherwise.

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3. Violations of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution - Golf outings at his own Hotels is funneling tax money into his business that he has not divested from. Because Trump never divested from his business interests, he violates the Constitution every time the Trump Organization has business dealings with foreign or American government officials. Do you notice how he does not go to Marthas Vineyard or Camp David when taking time off? Always a Trump property to the tune of for every 4.2 days of his presidency he has spent 1 day at a Trump property.


You may want to re-read the definition of the Emoluments Clause.

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4. Trump tried to cover up his campaign’s contacts with a Russian national at the Trump Tower meeting which, at very least, constituted a violation of federal law. He personally dictated a cover statement to DJTJ that the meeting was about adoptions when DJTJ's own released emails clearly state the meeting was about receiving negative information on their political opponent from a hostile foreign government.


A couple of things... how did Trump try to cover it up and exactly which law does the meeting break?

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5. Abuse of pardon power - Joe Arpaio was convicted for contempt of court after ignoring a court order that he stop detaining and searching people based on the color of their skin, which constitutes a violation of their constitutional rights. Trumps pardon of this man violates the 5th Amendment of the Constitution.


Profiling is not illegal. No, not even racial profiling. Not even if a federal judge tells you to stop (since judges cannot create law). How exactly did pardoning Arpaio break the 5th Amendment?

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6. Advocating Violence and Undermining Equal Protection Under the Law - When Trump gave cover to the neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville and murdered a protester, he violated his obligation to protect the citizenry against domestic violence. When Trump encouraged police officers to rough up people they have under arrest, he violated his obligation to oversee faithful execution of the laws. When Trump shared anti-Muslim content on Twitter, he violated his obligation to uphold equal protection of the laws.


Not a single one of those things you mention are laws, much less his actions thusly breaking them. Every single one of those things you mentioned is covered under his First Amendment right of free speech.

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7. Directing Law Enforcement to Investigate and Prosecute Political Adversaries for Improper and Unjustifiable Purposes.


Like... what? In every other point you expounded a bit but in this one you give not even a hint of an example.

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And if these don't convince you (which they won't)


They don't because they either aren't actual laws that have been broken or it's your complete misunderstanding of the law.

Try again.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:34 pm to
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House actually do it's duty


Such as?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:41 pm to

Trump is a phony a-hole. Let’s judge his presidency in 2020.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:44 pm to
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While I'm sure innocent children died as you state I.know nothing about your "Obama killing us citizens". Was that while he was memorizing the Koran in Kenya?


How could you not know about this?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:46 pm to
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Trump is a phony a-hole. Let’s judge his presidency in 2020


phoney trump won't last that long. The circle of his cronies is now under indictment or even confessed.

Too bad it can't be wrapped up soon but all the miscreants in on his scummy existence have to be squeezed one by one.


Posted by Pinecone Repair
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:49 pm to
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phoney trump won't last that long. The circle of his cronies is now under indictment or even confessed.


Which has nothing to do with Trump.
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