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re: Bwahahaha oh Dems are SO mad about wall. #reeeesist
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:28 am to theronswanson
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:28 am to theronswanson
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You are assuming I supported it when he did it. I did not. I was not an Obama kool-aid drinker.
My point is that no matter who the president is going forward, if they are a Democrat, then they will abuse EO's.
As such, while I don't approve of this as a tactic...for the reasons that you mentioned, I understand that the circumstances have changed and that this is the new normal. There needs to be systematic changes. Perhaps Trump can implore Congress to do so...after he has taken advantage of the Dems strategy.
I mean, would you not use a mugger's weapon against them if you were to wrestle it away while defending yourself? I get that, ideally there would legislation and enforcement to not allow muggers to operate. However, until a global utopia is achieved, you are forced to live in the real world.
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:28 am to CAD703X
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Is building a wall efficiently not an important military skill?
Lol no.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:34 am to theronswanson
Why? The basic function of the military is to protect and defend American lives. The military builds walls and barriers in the foreign nations it fights in. Why isn’t it an an appropriate use of military funds to build one at a border with documented incidents of Isis-connected individuals trying to cross?
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:36 am to theronswanson
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I'm not some melting liberal, just a middle of the road voter. I just do not like taking money away from our men and women of the military.
Do you think the government of Mexico is going to write a check payable to the Treasury?
Get off of it dipshit. This is talking about $.25 out of a $1000 budget.
The most fundamental thing our government can do is protect our borders. Period.
Not fighting against weird brown people in the middle east who stone their women and throw figs off of buildings.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:58 am to theronswanson
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But why are American taxpayers footing the bill for something Trump promised Mexico for pay for. Legit question how is this not a lie from Trump?
ElChapo=> prison
ElChapo 12.6bil=> seized by court
Border Wall=> Paid for
Libs=>melt
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:39 am to theronswanson
quote:his presidency is over? when did this happen? link?
It was a central campaign promise that he waffled on
quote:how do you know mexico won't ULTIMATELY pay for it?
if we as taxpayers are paying for it
quote:this is a stupid issue to have questions about, regardless of any campaign promises. the border needs to be secured. i couldn't care less who pays for it but, it sure would be icing on the cake if trump somehow manages to get funds from mexico that can be applied to it.
I don't think its outrageous for me to have questions
if this is your biggest problem with trump, then you're just being silly
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:40 am to theronswanson
quote:
But why are American taxpayers footing the bill for something Trump promised Mexico for pay for. Legit question how is this not a lie from Trump?
I assume you were/are looking for that Publishers Clearinghouse giant check photo op?
Mexico will clearly be paying a significant price for this wall.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:43 am to theronswanson
quote:depends on what they're being used for
can I now assume this board is ok with Presidents (current AND future ones) using executive orders to side step Congress and do what they want?
to implement liberal/progressive policies that harm america? no.
to enact common sense legislation that is being stymied by the establishment politicians. hell yes. absolutely
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:47 am to theronswanson
quote:but do you support an eo that is trying to increase border security with a proven solution that will alleviate the crisis at the border because congress is too stupid to get it done? you can't seriously oppose this
You are assuming I supported it when he did it
el paso officials are on record citing a reduction in illegal border crossing/crime statistics since their section of the wall went up
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:48 am to theronswanson
quote:no you aren't
I am asking reasonable questions
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