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re: BP and Chevron are laying off staff and relocating jobs to India.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:56 pm to aero1126
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:56 pm to aero1126
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As someone who knows many people in the tech industry, H1Bs are strictly hired to save cost and someone you can leverage to work insane hours because if they don’t then they are back to whatever country they are from.
While the second part rings true to my experience the first doesn't. H1bs are a pain in the arse and have expenses outside of salary for the sponsorship, if it's strictly for cost savings you're doing it wrong cause they aren't that great at it.... Offshoring is a much more efficient way to achieve true savings and tap that talent pool.
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:00 pm to Doremus Jessup
12 years recruiting engineers / operators in the middle east
Labor brokers trained every Indian applicant to respond in interviews "I can do that"
Buttiges ev station that installed 8 charging stations for 8 billion, "engineers/regulators say you can't do that"
?Newsomes cali train with not a single rail laid for 30 billion dollars "engineers /regulators say you can't do that"
Soooo which of the three will create more value
Labor brokers trained every Indian applicant to respond in interviews "I can do that"
Buttiges ev station that installed 8 charging stations for 8 billion, "engineers/regulators say you can't do that"
?Newsomes cali train with not a single rail laid for 30 billion dollars "engineers /regulators say you can't do that"
Soooo which of the three will create more value
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:10 pm to oklahogjr
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H1bs are a pain in the arse and have expenses outside of salary for the sponsorship
I didn’t say they weren’t painless, but it’s still way less costly. For example, a job for a major tech company in the Bay Area (one of my friends showed me this joke of a posting) needed someone with a masters who spoke multiple languages, needed to be in the Bay Area, and only paid $35/hr.
If you’re unfamiliar with the Bay Area, if you aren’t making $60/hr, you aren’t affording even a small 1 bedroom apartment without roommates (unless you want to spend 3 hr commuting, at which point now you're paying a lot of gas and tolls). No American with those qualifications would take that job (and there absolutely are people qualified), so that job sat around for 6 months until they could get an H1B to do it.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 2/22/25 at 3:53 pm to DaBike
Winning!!!
Posted on 2/22/25 at 3:55 pm to PurpleSingularity
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the Indians are good if you provide tremendous oversight and guard rails.
They have no vision AT ALL…good at data science but and pure calculations when you tell them exactly what to do
My experience exactly. If you babysit them you can get a decent work product but it takes quadruple the time. I have a hard time imagining the company is saving any money bc of the loss in efficiency.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:36 pm to WildManGoose
speaking of baby sitting, I had owners reps in the Fluor Danials and Brown and Root engineering offices in South west Houston in the 1995 time frame. When I asked the reps about the quality of the contract process engineering, the response was the owners reps have to spend to much time explaining how the three types of steam trap work.
really
really
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 4:39 pm
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