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re: Bottom line on Trump

Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:50 am to
Posted by CHSTigersFan
Charleston, Arkansas
Member since Jan 2005
2738 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:50 am to
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Froman

Suck more Biden dick, you’re an idiot!
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11152 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:51 am to
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How many votes did he expand the Democrat Party? 15 million?


Mail in fraud and ballot harvesting accounted for most of this. But i do agree with most of your post, was even a Cruz voter in primary as well. Trump is not perfect, but he's the America-First outsider we need to clean up the DC swamp. Now they have been exposed on both sides of the aisle, Id love to see him go scorched earth on the corrupt DC establishment. And you know he would if he ever got a chance. It will be interesting when he wins the nomination easily. I think the repubs will try to sabotage him out of the nomination somehow.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 10:54 am
Posted by ICyou21
Member since Sep 2021
113 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:07 am to
They will do anything and everything in their power to never see Trump in the White House again.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20296 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:12 am to
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The only thing that will stop him is if he realizes and accepts that DeSantis is the better play and chooses to throw his weight behind DeSantis, or if DeSantis does choose to run and neither candidate can get the majority to secure nomination prior to convention and the convention results in the delegates choosing DeSantis.


That would result in the republicans possibly losing the worst election in the history of the party. Listen to yourself.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20296 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:18 am to
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He received the most votes a sitting President has received all time and received the most minority support from a GOP president in 50 years.

He also won 2016 in a huge upset and had our economy going on all cylinders.

How could we have stopped states unconstitutionally changing their election laws and Covid creating a mail-in voting system?


I simply don't understand how someone who calls themselves a republican doesn't see him as the greatest president of our lifetime.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:19 am to
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How many votes did he expand the Democrat Party? 15 million?

The truth is Trump is a polarizing figure. He energizes conservatives and liberals.


It's true that Trump is a turnout machine for the GOP. An amazing one in fact.

But he's also an amazing turnout machine for democrats and indies too to vote against Trump and other republicans. And that's one his biggest problems.

A double edged sword if you will.

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I believe he’s on the right side of most issues, but his style and his philosophy prevents him from being a really effective leader that can build a consensus and get things done.


Trump is a great case study as to why it's not enough to be a fighter with great political instincts to be an effective and/or transformational politician.

You have to be competent, disciplined, shrewd, pay attention to detail no matter how big or small, have institutional knowledge and the ability to look at the big picture.

Trump is sorely lacking in all of those qualities and it really showed.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11152 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:23 am to
The fact that Trump is not a good politician is what made him a great president. Good politicians are sleezeballs that sell out. We need outsiders.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6455 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:25 am to
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In reality, these same people ponied up and voted Trump in 2016, but they were never Trump fans at heart. They’ve always liked the kind and soft-spoken Republican like Rubio.


IN REALITY!

All those on the list listened to the talking idiots on CNN and MSNBC...

Major difference between those who actually have a curiosity to look upfacts ,,,,,,versus followers of the cult ....Just ask the followers of Jones. The Grape Kool Aide tasted like crap.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:10 pm to
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The issue for the anti Trump Republicans to solve is this:

How can they keep Trump from being a candidate?

This is their mission and they will do anything to accomplish this mission.


If nothing else, it will have redeeming value just for the entertainment.

That is, how many of the original hysterical, contemptible NTers who suddenly seemed to change their attitude toward him after he won - merely temporizing to get back lost viewers/listeners - then "relapsed" and showed their true sympathies toward him when Jan 6 happened.

Will Levin, Berry, Beck, Sexton, Lowry, Kessler, Erickson, Parrino and others not worth mentioning give themselves away again with barely cloaked comments designed to subtly throw cold water on any possibility of Trump running again.

This time the catchword will be "caution."
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:59 pm to
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There are millions of people who didn't vote for Biden but against Trump.

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No there wasn't.

Are you serious?

Do you think everyone that voted for Biden believed in him?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29435 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:10 pm to
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There are millions of people who didn't vote for Biden but against Trump.


No there wasn't.
Dude, you can’t be serious? You seriously believe that tens of millions voted “for” Biden and not “against” Trump?

Jeez, you can’t be this delusional.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 7:20 pm
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