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re: Border Czar Tom Homan just went off on the cartels and dared them to keep making threats

Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:48 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:48 am to
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However, you realize that that is simply a list of countries who have to some degree decriminalized drug use, right?


Most have far less violent crime than we do.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:49 am to
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Everybody thinks it's going to be awesome


Absolutely not. At least for a generation.

But it will be cheaper, and you'll have fewer people in prison.

Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14715 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:59 am to
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How did prohibition work out?


You don't know. All you see is the propaganda produced by the Liquor industry.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:03 am to
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How did prohibition work out?


You don't know


I'll tell you. Progressives (who pushed prohibition) claimed the jails would empty as drunks disappeared, but what happened is violent crime shot through the roof.
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During Prohibition, violent crime increased due to gang-fueled violence, territorial disputes, and organized crime syndicates


The inner city violence is a byproduct of our drug appetite and drug prohibition.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:26 am to
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The inner city violence is a byproduct of our drug appetite and drug prohibition.


You should probably wean yourself off a few of them. Inner city violence is a byproduct of the government's destruction of the nuclear family, and a lack of self-respect which manifests a lack of respect for others and their lives. It's a result of poverty driven by government support for unwed mothers birthing bastard children, and getting paid for doing so.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:27 am to
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. Inner city violence is a byproduct of the government's destruction of the nuclear family,


In which the drug war was a major component..
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:30 am to
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Most have far less violent crime than we do.


Most do not have a Second Amendment right prohibiting the government from infringing on their right to keep and bear arms. Also, most have a homogenous demographic.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:35 am to
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In which the drug war was a major component..


Only dwarfed by the funding provided per bastard child, making deadbeat fathers nothing more than sperm donors, instead of responsible fathers, working and paying for their offspring, and teaching them respect for themselves and others.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23364 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:39 am to
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If we can create a more productive economy from a job growth perspective we can reduce the prevalence of addiction.

Got a link to support that?

Low Income Americans 34% More Likely to Become Addicted
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:58 am to
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Most do not have a Second Amendment right prohibiting the government from infringing on their right to keep and bear arms.


That has nothing to do with their lower violent crime rate.

The drug war costs more lives than drugs.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:03 pm to
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The drug war costs more lives than drugs.


what a stupid statement. Just last year there were 108,000 overdose deaths in the US. That doesn’t include all the ancillary deaths caused by drugs. And that just in the US. You love making definitive statements from a place of complete ignorance.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:06 pm to
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The drug war costs more lives than drugs.


what a stupid statement.


Its fact. Between prison and death, the drug war is more costly than freedom.

Of course you hate freedom, dont you?

Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
859 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:19 pm to
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Its fact. Between prison and death, the drug war is more costly than freedom.

I think you have problem distinguishing a fact from opinion. Don't worry, it's a common thing.
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Of course you hate freedom, dont you?


Can you just stop with the stupid shite! There are problems with both prohibition and legalization but just quit with the theoretical crap.

Today we can and should take steps to make it harder for the cartels to get their product here. They have had it way to easy. It's that simple!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:21 pm to
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I think you have problem distinguishing a fact from opinion


No, you have a problem separating your fairy tales from reality.

The death of the black family came on the back of welfare and the drug war.

Your own government created this situation where Cartels profit.

This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 12:26 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75174 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:26 pm to
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Do you have a better source? Sorry, but I'm skeptical of ANYTHING posted by that pinhead Eric Daugherty.

Here's the full speech:
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:29 pm to
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There are problems with both prohibition and legalization but just quit with the theoretical crap.


Anti drug politicians are the ultimate authoritarians. This isnt theoretical, Simp.

There is a massive 150b market that your government just hands over to the Cartels.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75174 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:29 pm to
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Your own government created this situation where Cartels profit.

They're going to argue with you no matter what. The fact that this statement is being argued says it all.
Posted by LawnmowerMan
Member since Jan 2024
233 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:34 pm to
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Mexico is a failed socialist state that has degenerated into a criminal narco-state giving a logistical platform to our adversaries.

They are the western hemisphere's Afghanistan. Eagle Pass is the parrots beak, San Diego is Peshwar, and our equivalent of Herat is Nuevo Laredo.

Yes, we should act accordingly - militarily.




Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Of course you hate freedom, dont you?


Freedom is legalization, with a massive expansion of government to oversee distribution and taxation of said freedom? How long before your "freedom" becomes a right, even for the poorest Americans, and therefore government provided for them, making the working poor, middle class, and wealthy pay ever more to provide that "freedom" to those who cannot afford to pay?

How long before the "freedom" is too expensive for the working poor and middle class, so their addiction dictates that they predate their fellow Americans, or resort to the same illicit sources your "freedom" was designed to destroy?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:40 pm to
"You wanna get rid of murder in this country? Fine, let's just get rid of all laws making murder illegal." ~ troyt37

Ron Paul is right about many things, but he is also nuttier than squirrel shite about many things.
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