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Boeing CEO meets with Trump over AF1 costs

Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:04 pm
Posted by joshnorris14
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:04 pm
CNN
21m21 minutes ago
CNN ?@CNN
President-elect Trump and Boeing CEO talk about Trump's threat to cancel plans for new Air Force One jets LINK
Posted by PaperTiger
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:07 pm to
Some guy went into detail on fox about this. Said it's the militarys and secret services bells and whistles that account for the 2 billion per plane.

I think they can cut down cost, I'm just not sure how much
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:08 pm to
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Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:09 pm to
Sounds like Trump is just making more negotiations and lowering costs, while previous administrations just accepted the first estimate they received.
Posted by Curly
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:09 pm to
Boeing C E O need to do some curious arse-Kissing.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Said it's the militarys and secret services bells and whistles that account for the 2 billion per plane.


I read it was like $850 million per plane, not $2B per.

ETA: I'm referring to the unit costs and you're grouping in all of the R&D costs as well. Fair enough.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 12:15 pm
Posted by massiveattack
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:13 pm to
Please come out with estimates of .5 billion to 1 billion lower. Want to see some liberal spin.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:14 pm to
The estimated costs are $3.2B
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:14 pm to
Kiss dat ring foo!
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:14 pm to
The 4 I think included the first couple of years of service ?
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:16 pm to
At least he is mindful of the government spending. Even if he lowers the bill by 250k, that's 250k he saved the tax payers.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:17 pm to
Air Force One is one of those things I'm not worried about the price tag personally.

I don't think you can put a value on preventing your leadership from being killed or compromised during an emergency. At what number is it no longer worth it?

If shite hits the fan an attack or a hacking attempt will be conducted by the most capable and well funded foes planet earth has to offer. To put our entire nations survival at a disadvantage to save maybe 1/20,000th of our current national debt seems stupid.

There are plenty of places to curb government spending. I just don't see this as one
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:18 pm to
Yeah, many costs on large buys include O&M of the first 2 years...

I work small programs in Acquisition and the "horse blanket" (Acq/Sus plan) projects well beyond production
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:19 pm to
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It's the directed energy weapons.


that doesn't surprise me
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:19 pm to
The government shouldn't allow private companies to fleece the American taxpayers on any contract
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:21 pm to
quote:


I don't think you can put a value on preventing your leadership from being killed or compromised during an emergency.


That seat isn't that damn important...if the POTUS has so much power why is GITMO still open...
Heck the dude that sits in the srat was talking about "no terrorist attacks in 8 years" today...
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22932 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:22 pm to
I can't say I don't agree, but damn, that's a hefty price tag
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17878 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:22 pm to
Hopefully he'll squeeze in time to addres the shite fest known as the f35.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21856 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Some guy went into detail on fox about this. Said it's the militarys and secret services bells and whistles that account for the 2 billion per plane.



They can say that all they want, but when you put it in perspective that an...

Aircraft Carrier has all the same military bells and whistles and it is over a 1/4 mile long and 100yds wide
And is made of over 47000 tons of steel and has 2 Nuclear Reactors...

And it only costs 13.5 billion

This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

The government shouldn't allow private companies to fleece the American taxpayers on any contract


We have no idea what goes into this plane. This entire R&D plus production is less than the unit cost of one new zumalt class destroyer (~500ft).

^ every single one of which can be rendered completely useless if air force once is shot down or hacked/compromised.
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