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Big story out of UK on British handling of Steele dossier

Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:20 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:20 pm
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British spy chiefs were briefed on Christopher Steele’s dossier before Donald Trump knew of its existence. Heads of MI5, MI6 + one of Theresa May’s most trusted security advisers all knew of the Russian links claims before Trump.

Lots is known about how the FBI handled the Steele dossier - 17 memos compiled by former MI6 agent Christopher Steele about Trump campaign’s Russia links. But the story of what UK intelligence leaders knew is revealed for the first in tomorrow’s @Telegraph. Story with @rmendick.

Before the Nov 2016 election Steele had been determined to warn the Americans, passing on what he knew to the FBI. But after Trump’s shock win, he decided the claims he uncovered were now an issue of British national security. It was time to approach the UK government...

The man Steele approached was Sir Charles Farr. He was head of the Joint Intelligence Committee - the body that assess intelligence. He had also been a top counter-terrorism adviser in May’s Home Office. Plus Steele had known Farr for 20 years. He would know what to do

Steele and Farr met a week after Trump’s election win. The venue was Farr’s detached house on a suburban street in Wimbledon, South London - an incongruous venue given what they were to discuss.

For hours the pair went through Steele’s explosive memos line by line. Farr would ask questions. Steele would spell out what he knew. After their meeting, Farr reached a conclusion - the dossier had to go up the chain of command.



Within days, according to well-placed sources, the allegations were shared with the most senior intelligence figures in Britain.

MI5 director general Andrew Parker and MI6 chief Alex Younger are both understood to have been briefed.
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Britain’s spy chiefs then had a decision - should they tell May? The PM was used to receiving classified intel from her Home Office days. She is likely to have been aware of Steele’s work from the Litvinenko inquest. But also, she needed to build a relationship with Trump...

teele’s information was “marked up to the top”, according to sources.

But Number 10 figures say categorically that she was not briefed on the dossier.

Exactly why the intel chiefs shielded May from the claims is not known.

Possible reasons could include protecting May given the political need to build a relationship with Trump, uncertainty about elements of the dossier, or delay while verification took place.



Eventually Trump himself would learn about the dossier - but not until Jan 6 2017. That was the day James Comey briefed him one-on-one in Trump Tower.

Just a few days later, on Jan 10, Buzzfeed published the whole thing. Everyone could read the dossier for themselves.

By the end of that month, May flew to Washington to appear by Trump’s side, becoming the first world leader hosted in his White House.

What is the significance of our disclosure? One, it suggests British intel figures treated the Steele dossier with gravity, escalating it rapidly up the system. That is in marked contrast to Trump’s position, which is that the dossier is “fake” and “phony”.

Two, it risks deteriorating UK-US relations. Trump has tweeted criticism of Steele + his dossier more than 50 times in office. He’s also tweeted a claim that British intel services helped spy on his campaign. What will he think of them knowing about the dossier before him?


This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 7:41 pm
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:23 pm to
Steele needs to be publicly hanged and his backers and handlers with him.
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:23 pm to
Already been posted, but if Steele went to the Brits to peddle this propaganda, he gonna be in trouble
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:24 pm to
This seems like a nothingburger
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:24 pm to
EVERYBODY is in CYA mode right now

They know Barr is coming and he won’t have any problem exposing the foreign influence in a US election by allies like England, Italy and Australia
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:26 pm to
Nothing? Peddling a massive lie about the President? Trying to bring down our government?

This man should be executed.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:26 pm to
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This seems like a nothingburger

What the frick?

Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:27 pm to
I just don’t understand the significance of British intelligence knowing about it a few months before Trump. He wasn’t even sworn in yet.

Tell me why this is such a big deal. Maybe I’m missing it
Posted by Tiger Roux
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:28 pm to
Wray needs to be fired. He is just covering up and defecting for the FBI. That agency needs to be gutted.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:28 pm to
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Peddling a massive lie about the President? Trying to bring down our government?

This man should be executed.



my bad. Forgot where I was.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 7:29 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:29 pm to
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mendick
What an unfortunate last name
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:29 pm to
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This seems like a nothingburger


So do you.

Your boy Obama is going down, Matlock.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:31 pm to
That’s all fine and dandy, but I still don’t see why the British being briefed on it before Trump was even sworn in is such a big deal.
Posted by TOPAL
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:33 pm to
Was it a lie?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:33 pm to
The fact that it was taken so seriously without verification and they tried to brief May on it before her meeting with DJT is a bad look
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:34 pm to
I’ve never read it. Seems that the British didn’t think it worthy of alerting their Prime Minister, though.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:34 pm to
That's because you're an idiot
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 7:35 pm
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:35 pm to
Let’s see how worked up the media gets about the UK interfering with our election.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23727 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:36 pm to
She claims they did not. Is that true or not? Some things in this story make you wonder.

We know the MI5 and MI6 chiefs had been briefed and the info was classified "Up to the Top" according to this.

Now what does that mean? Is someone lying?
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 7:39 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:37 pm to
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The fact that it was taken so seriously without verification


Ok. Sounds like Steele told a guy he knew for 20 years and that guy told his bosses and that was where it stopped.

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they tried to brief May on it before her meeting with DJT


But they didn’t.

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a bad look


I guess so. I just don’t see it as the bombshell you guys do.
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