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Big Ag and animal cruelty

Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:03 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:03 pm
Greenwald YouTube 23min
Watched this video the other day from Greenwald on cruel treatment of animals in agriculture. I thought there were laws on this. I found things like the Animal Welfare Act, but these things seem to deal with animals outside of the ag sector.

He discusses things like gestation crates, which are worse than prison cells. Animals, such as pigs, are kept in them and they can't move - at all. This is torture. I thought this practice had been abandoned long ago, but companies like Smithfield still use these. Pigs literally go crazy in them, bashing up against them, biting the bars, etc.


I will never buy Smithfield products ever again. They issued a declaration almost 20 years ago that they would phase them out and they never did. I was under the impression that massive reform had taken place in animal agriculture, and that the main issue remaining was researching the most humane way of harvesting the different species in ag. I was wrong. Naturally Congress will do nothing because of the campaign donations involved.

I thought there might be others here under the impression these practices had stopped, and might like to know that they haven't.

It's a bad sign for a society to tolerate this type of treatment of the vulnerable, whether it's the very young, very old, sick, injured, or animals.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:19 pm to
Are you sure that is in the USA?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11143 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

Are you sure that is in the USA?

Well Smithfield was bought out by a Chinese entity so I promise that unless they are forced to meet regulations related to animal cruelty it’s not going to happen.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12394 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:31 pm to
There’s plenty of shitty ag companies out there that treat animals horribly. I know a guy who works for Fairlife and I enjoy sending him pictures of happy cows grazing on grass and reminding him that he works for a bunch of satanic assholes who torture animals.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 6:34 pm
Posted by LongRangeCreedmoor
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:32 pm to
Thanks for reminding me I’m overdue to smoke a big batch of ribs!
Posted by Grigio
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:38 pm to
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 2:56 pm
Posted by foosball
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:43 pm to
Thanks for the depression
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:45 pm to
Didn't the Chinese buy Smithfield several yrs ago?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:56 pm to
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billjamin


You send him pictures of happy cows?

Just the happy ones? How can you be sure they are happy? Maybe they are miserable but are hiding it? Did you ask?



On a site known for idiocy, you sir or madam, have just won the grand prize.

Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12394 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:59 pm to
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Just the happy ones? How can you be sure they are happy? Maybe they are miserable but are hiding it? Did you ask

All our cows are happy. All grass fed, don’t sell to stock yards or pump them full of bullshite. The only time they get a little mad is when theres calf’s around and one of the dogs starts fricking with them.

I guess you’re a big fan of penned up animals that get abused. That’s cool I guess.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 7:00 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63894 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:04 pm to
Halfway through the watch, glenn doesn't know how to pronounce sow and referred to Vietnam as North Korea.

He's slipping.

Going to push through to the end though.
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
598 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:04 pm to
Ever drive behind a truckload of chickens, that'll make you think.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98781 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:07 pm to
The pigs should be kept in large pens where we feed them pedophiles.
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
13406 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:15 pm to
This is a thought…
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63894 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:21 pm to
Quick fact check-

Yes Glenn Greenwald is a vegan.

He's a homosexual expat vegan who is also a libertarian, except for this one thing... just like most libertarians.
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
7891 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

The pigs should be kept in large pens where we feed them pedophiles.



But then some poor bastard is going to get a side of bacon that came from a hog that ate Hank and Transboy
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98781 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:38 pm to
That’s okay as long as it’s cooked properly.
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:14 pm to
Never, ever Smithfield. China owned. I posted on them previously.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:34 pm to
Sows go into gestation crates late in gestation so when they farrow the piglets aren't squished by the sow.

They don't spend the entire time they are pregnant in the crates. It isn't efficient.


Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
10928 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

Didn't the Chinese buy Smithfield several yrs ago?

Yes
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