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re: Bessent and Trump just enacted MASSIVE FAFO on Maduro, sanctioning FOUR more oil companies

Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:31 am to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9116 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:31 am to
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Baws, this guy reads maps. He must be an expert on the global drug trade.


What impresses me is how proud some of y'all are about your ignorance. Debating factually with that faction is a waste of time. I will just post this from ChatGPT and know that the mouth breathers won't have any factual rebuttal to "Venezuela is not a middleman for Chinese fentanyl going to the United States."

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Short answer:
No credible evidence from official sources shows that Venezuela is being used as a “middleman” for fentanyl shipments from China to the United States. Reports from law-enforcement agencies and international bodies indicate that the fentanyl crisis in the U.S. is driven by supply chains involving China and Mexico, not Venezuela. ?
Orinoco Tribune +1
?? What the Evidence Shows
1. Fentanyl supply chain is centered on Mexico (with Chinese inputs)
U.S. law enforcement and international reports consistently state that the vast majority of illicit fentanyl entering the United States originates in Mexico, where drug cartels manufacture and distribute the drug.
These cartels use precursor chemicals sourced from China to make fentanyl and fentanyl analogues. ?
Orinoco Tribune +1
2. No official reporting identifies Venezuela as a fentanyl transit hub
The International Narcotics Control Strategy Report (INCSR) from the U.S. State Department indicates Mexico is the sole significant source and transit route for illicit fentanyl entering the U.S.; Venezuela does not feature as a producer, transit country, or key actor in fentanyl trafficking. ?
Orinoco Tribune
According to DEA, FBI, and U.N. data, Venezuela is not involved in fentanyl production, processing, or trafficking to the United States. ?
Primicias24.com
3. Link between China and fentanyl supply is documented—but via Mexico, not Venezuela
U.S. indictments and DEA press releases describe China-based chemical companies shipping precursor chemicals that end up with Mexican cartels and are then used to make fentanyl that reaches the United States. ?
Department of Justice
There is no official record tying Venezuelan routes to these China ? Mexico ? US fentanyl flows.
?? What Some U.S. Officials Have Alleged
Some U.S. government figures and media reports have made accusations about Venezuela’s role in drug trafficking more generally (often focused on cocaine, or on Venezuela as a state alleged to be a “narcoterrorist” partner with groups like FARC/ELN), but these claims do not specifically document a China ? Venezuela ? U.S. fentanyl pipeline backed by hard evidence. ?
Jornada
?? Summary
Supported by Official Evidence?
Claim
China supplies fentanyl or precursors linked to U.S. overdoses
Yes (via court cases and law enforcement actions) ?
Department of Justice
Mexico is the main transit/manufacturing hub for fentanyl into the U.S.
Yes (per UNODC, DEA/FBI) ?
Orinoco Tribune
Venezuela is a significant transit point for fentanyl from China to the U.S.
No (no evidence in law enforcement or international reporting) ?
Orinoco Tribune +1
If you want, I can provide a simplified diagram of the known fentanyl supply routes into the U.S. that highlights where China and Mexico fit in versus where Venezuela does not.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94111 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:36 am to
Even JB said Maduro was part of the problem. You dont need to defend Maduro this hard

quote:

Presidential Determination on Major Drug Transit or Major Illicit Drug Producing Countries for Fiscal Year 2025

Memorandum for the Secretary of State

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including section 706(1) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Year 2003 (Public Law 107-228) (FRAA), I hereby identify the following countries as major drug transit or major illicit drug producing countries (including countries that are a significant direct source of precursor chemicals used in the production of certain drugs and substances significantly affecting the United States): Afghanistan, The Bahamas, Belize, Bolivia, Burma, the People's Republic of China (PRC), Colombia, Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, India, Jamaica, Laos, Mexico, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Panama, Peru, and Venezuela


Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9116 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:42 am to
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Even JB said Maduro was part of the problem. You dont need to defend Maduro this hard



Why are you simping for El Salvador and India???
Regime change now!!!

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94111 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:44 am to
When you have nothing else you just go straight to stupid

happy new year beta
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9116 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:53 am to
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When you have nothing else you just go straight to stupid


In response to my proof that Venezuela is not a middleman for Chinese fentanyl on its way to the US, you cited something that doesn't even mention fentanyl AND lumps Venezuela in with El Salvador and India.

Explain how what you cited rebuts the assertion that Venezuela is NOT a middleman for Chinese fentanyl on its way to the US.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94111 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:55 am to
It was just posted that they are

You are very upset about it. Thats very weird. But you keep up your ctusade defending kommies
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9116 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:04 am to
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It was just posted that they are

You are very upset about it. Thats very weird. But you keep up your ctusade defending kommies


Your either psychotic or a moron. Nothing that you have cited says that.

I have never defended Maduro. I just can't stand the lying.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8426 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:04 am to
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Muh Monroe Doctrine!!


Corrupt Maduro BAD to his peepuls! KILL HEEM! America's gubmint and leaders only have the citizens "security" interests at heart. This is NOT about regime change and taking over another nation's oil wealth infrastructure -- pinky-promise!


So let's hear it for the US- World Global Police Military doing what they're supposed to do -- kickin' arse!! Iran. Iraq. Arab Spring. Venezuela. Who's arse is next up for USA Inc?

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Pathetic.


SO overwrought and heart felt

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297982 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:06 am to
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Your either psychotic or a moron


Hes a lying machine. Has no morals or values.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94111 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:08 am to
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I have never defended Maduro


Yeah you dont need lie its very obvious

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Your either psychotic or a moron. Nothing that you have cited says that.



Here you are very upset about the truth. They bribg the chemicals that get shipped from Chyna. You are either psychotic or a moron to deny you see the drums of it on those fishing boats

You can stop defending Maduro
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9116 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:16 am to
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Here you are very upset about the truth. They bribg the chemicals that get shipped from Chyna. You are either psychotic or a moron to deny you see the drums of it on those fishing boats

You can stop defending Maduro


I hope you're simply psychotic. There appears to be treatment for that.

There is ZERO evidence that those drums carried fentanyl. "Seeing" drums of unknown content doesn't prove anything. I believe that we are blowing up drug running boats as part of a pressure campaign on Maduro...who is an illegitimate president and the defendant in drug cases brought in the United States.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94111 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:17 am to
So you are just a moron

Got it. Keep up the crusade defending Maduro bud

Thats a winner
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44006 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:19 am to
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It comes largely from China with Venezuela as a middle man


Says who? The gov’t?!?! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha……. Same old bullshite, different spin.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70188 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:32 pm to
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[9] In 2009, a report from the United States Congress said that from 2004 to 2007, the quantity of cocaine exported from Colombia via Venezuela had quadrupled, reaching 17% of world trade in cocaine in 2007.[29] The smuggling of cocaine has increased in Venezuela in the 2010s, going from about 25% of South American cocaine coming from the country in 2010[9] to about 33% in 2015.[17]




This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 1:33 pm
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1225 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:20 pm to
Brilliant.

This is a great way to refill the strategic reserve.

Two birds, one stone.
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