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Ballots: Mail-out & Mail-in vs Easy Absentee vs Normal Absentee
Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:53 pm
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EDIT: Here is a good summary of the virus-related mail-in changes, by State.
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 9:25 pm
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Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:53 pm to AggieHank86
Hank, you’re a turd
Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Hank, you’re a turd
Seconded
Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:54 pm to AggieHank86
Can anyone give a coherent argument on how mail out then mail in ballots don’t have the high potential for fraud?
Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:58 pm to CDawson
quote:I think that the likelihood of fraud under that regimen is near-certain.
Can anyone give a coherent argument on how mail out then mail in ballots don’t have the high potential for fraud?
But the states following that regimen all voted Blue last time anyway, with the exception of Utah and Montana. It would take truly MASSIVE fraud to flip either of those states, but let's assume that they succeed there. Are those nine EC votes likely to be significant?
So, the massive "mail-out, mail-in" argument appears to be largely a red herring, from the perspective of having any material influence upon the Electoral College. I posted the OP without commentary, just to see whether anyone would be able to read (and understand the implications of) the maps.
The battleground CLEARLY lies in the "Easy Absentee" regimen.
So the question to ask is "How susceptible to fraud is THAT regimen?" What are the safeguards in place to be certain that ballots are only being sent to actual voters? Etcetera?
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:07 pm to AggieHank86
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I think that the likelihood of fraud under that regimen is near-certain. But the states following that regimen all voted Blue last time anyway, with the exception of Utah and Montana. It would take truly MASSIVE fraud to flip either of those states, but let's assume that they succeed there. Are those nine EC votes likely to be significant?
Wait, so your argument is that there is absolutely fraud in those states using that system, but it doesn’t matter because it is unlikely that there is enough fraud to flip the states? And even if it did, it would be significant because it’s not many EC votes?
Shouldn’t fraud not be tolerated no matter the outcome or form? This is a legit crazy stance to take.
Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:07 pm to AggieHank86
I think the mail in only is gonna hurt dems in Colorado in Nevada. Can they also vote in person?
Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:10 pm to AggieHank86
If Bill Barr says it’s a serious issue then it’s a serious issue
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:10 pm to crewdepoo
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Can they also vote in person?
Sure, as many times as they'd like.
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I think the mail in only is gonna hurt dems in Colorado in Nevada
Why? Because dems too dumb to know how to mail (yet another republican voter suppression tactic) or will the post office know which envelopes contain democrat votes and lose them?
Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:11 pm to Baron
quote:No.
Wait, so your argument is ....
My point is that people are losing their shite about the WRONG form of mail-in voting. Mass mail-out/mail-in is sure to result in fraud, but it will likely make no difference in the Electoral results.
It is like screaming "The Dems Cheated in California!" Yeah, probably. But they would have won California anyway.
We should be focusing upon the regimen which may ACTUALLY influence the election ... absentee voting with loosened rules.
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:14 pm to AggieHank86
AH
Fraud potential not withstanding , the average lost mail when sent is 3% . Now if ballots sent out are 3% of voters rights loss and then the ones that are received ( if all addressee’s were at their last know address, highly doubtful) then that is another 3 % disenfranchised voters . When you start to calculate all the late , incorrectly filled and ballots delivered to addresses of transient voters ( people that are constantly moving for work , renters or whatever ) how could anyone believe that a actual election could be had ?
Fraud potential not withstanding , the average lost mail when sent is 3% . Now if ballots sent out are 3% of voters rights loss and then the ones that are received ( if all addressee’s were at their last know address, highly doubtful) then that is another 3 % disenfranchised voters . When you start to calculate all the late , incorrectly filled and ballots delivered to addresses of transient voters ( people that are constantly moving for work , renters or whatever ) how could anyone believe that a actual election could be had ?
Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:19 pm to AggieHank86
you don't think they will "find" enough mail in ballots to bring FL, OH, or GA into play 3 weeks after the election?
Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Would you care to elaborate, as to these two maps ... as opposed to the usual high-brow comments regarding my parentage, personal grooming, sexual preferences &/or failure to maintain a tidy work area?
Hank, you’re a turd
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:46 pm to Bulldogblitz
quote:yes. I think less ppl will vote if you have to mail in something and not mess up for it to count. Less votes always favors republicans.
Why? Because dems too dumb to know how to mail
Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:58 pm to Rebel
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you don't think they will "find" enough mail in ballots to bring FL, OH, or GA into play 3 weeks after the election?
Absolutely. PA as well.
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 10:59 pm
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