- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Back from the almost dead; SCOTUS & religion related
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:23 am
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:23 am
Religion, primarily Christianity has been slowly dying at the hands of the Government (pick a level) for years but for some strange unknown reason it has started to rise from the ashes over the past 3 yrs.....and I can't figure out WHY.
But
except
There's a nice little testy exchange between some of the justices and the lawyer representing the state of Montana and well.....let's just say Montana ain't fairin' too gooder
Breitbart
But
quote:
Supreme Court: Kavanaugh, Alito, & Breyer Suggest Montana Discriminated Against Religious Schools
quote:
At issue in the case is 2015 legislation enacted by Montana lawmakers to give taxpayers a dollar-for-dollar tax credit for contributions up to $150 to a student scholarship organization.
except
quote:
The Montana Department of Revenue, which implemented the scholarship program, decided to adopt an administrative rule to exclude religious schools as a “qualified education provider.”
There's a nice little testy exchange between some of the justices and the lawyer representing the state of Montana and well.....let's just say Montana ain't fairin' too gooder
Breitbart
4
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:38 am to Wtodd
quote:
“No, so we don’t think the race analogy is apt,” Unikowsky argued. “I don’t think that's constitutional, and we just don’t think that race and religion are identical for all constitutional reasons.”
Wow.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:39 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I told you it wasn't goin' well for Montaner
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:45 am to Wtodd
I don't know about religion, per se, but religious liberty is certainly faring better under the current administration, as it should.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:48 am to Wtodd
History lesson for the PT:
Many states have state constitutional amendments prohibiting taxpayer money to be used for religious purposes.
They were called "Blaine amendments" and originally were targeted to keep taxpayer funds away from Catholic organizations, based on a "fear" that the Vatican would somehow take over America by doing so. (This belief that Catholicism will ultimately rule the world is prominent in fundamentalist circles; it is far less prominent in evangelical and Pentecostal circles.)
Now personally, I'm not fond of school voucher programs, because all you need is a shift in the political winds, and the government will force the religious entities to do things its way or face closure for lack of $$$. BUT if you're going to allow taxpayers to use public funds for non-public schools, then you have to allow both sectarian and non-sectarian ones access.
Many states have state constitutional amendments prohibiting taxpayer money to be used for religious purposes.
They were called "Blaine amendments" and originally were targeted to keep taxpayer funds away from Catholic organizations, based on a "fear" that the Vatican would somehow take over America by doing so. (This belief that Catholicism will ultimately rule the world is prominent in fundamentalist circles; it is far less prominent in evangelical and Pentecostal circles.)
Now personally, I'm not fond of school voucher programs, because all you need is a shift in the political winds, and the government will force the religious entities to do things its way or face closure for lack of $$$. BUT if you're going to allow taxpayers to use public funds for non-public schools, then you have to allow both sectarian and non-sectarian ones access.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 11:49 am
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:56 am to Quidam65
quote:
Many states have state constitutional amendments prohibiting taxpayer money to be used for religious purposes.
A religious school & religious purposes is not necessarily the same....example - there is no such thing as Catholic Algebra
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:06 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:He final sentence is correct. The First Amendment and the Fourteenth have different language, different legislative history, different rationales and different societal history.
“No, so we don’t think the race analogy is apt,” Unikowsky argued. “I don’t think that's constitutional, and we just don’t think that race and religion are identical for all constitutional reasons.”
I think the religious schools win this fight, but they win with an ”Equal Protection” analysis rather than with a First Amendment analysis
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:40 pm to Wtodd
Condolences for the premature death of your thread.
An actual interesting issue, and the thread drops like a rock in favor of 30 threads about Hunter-freakin-Biden.
Sad.
An actual interesting issue, and the thread drops like a rock in favor of 30 threads about Hunter-freakin-Biden.
Sad.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:43 pm to Quidam65
quote:
This belief that Catholicism will ultimately rule the world is prominent in fundamentalist circles; it is far less prominent in evangelical and Pentecostal circles.
I completely disagree. Even non-religious people I know who were simply raised Protestant still hate the Catholic Church with a passion.
Page 1 of 1
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News