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re: Anyone notice the subtle attack on NDAs and arbitration?

Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:56 pm to
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I'll consider your great legal experience when I consider the weight I'll give to your opinion.


Or you could just consider common sense but you'd probably overcomplicate things anyway so what's the point?
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45726 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:58 pm to
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People are not always as attentive as we'd like them to be.

So, if I don’t like a clause in a contract I get to say, “Sorry, Your Honor, I wasn’t really paying attention that day. How about we cancel out my car loan, I keep the car and we call it even?”

Seems to me like knowing this would make people pay closer attention. There’s nothing that says I can’t try to negotiate anything out of a contract. If the other party refuses I get to decide if I sign or go elsewhere.

Stupidity, ignorance and inattention really shouldn’t be rewarded.

Am I right SFP?
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 12:03 am to
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NoHoTiger


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So, if I don’t like a clause in a contract I get to say, “Sorry, Your Honor, I wasn’t really paying attention that day. How about we cancel out my car loan, I keep the car and we call it even?”

Seems to me like knowing this would make people pay closer attention. There’s nothing that says I can’t try to negotiate anything out of a contract. If the other party refuses I get to decide if I sign or go elsewhere.

Stupidity, ignorance and inattention really shouldn’t be rewarded.

Am I right SFP?


You my friend are part of the reason we're such a great and free country, there really is beauty in simplicity
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45726 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 12:12 am to
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ThePTExperience1969

Well, they don’t let just anyone be a secretary these days

I was at a conference one time and a speaker made this very profound statement, “...any time you are about to make a decision, make this statement, in your head, ‘well, Your Honor, I made this particular decision because’...”

“If it’s something that a judge will laugh out of court or something that will be mocked on the 6:00 news, it’s probably a bad decision.”

That has always stuck with me.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 12:16 am to
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I was at a conference one time and a speaker made this very profound statement, “...any time you are about to make a decision, make this statement, in your head, ‘well, Your Honor, I made this particular decision because’...”

“If it’s something that a judge will laugh out of court or something that will be mocked on the 6:00 news, it’s probably a bad decision.”

That has always stuck with me.


If more people lived according to this directive, there'd be a helluva lot less lawsuits than there currently are. Last I checked we're the most litigious country on the planet, that is not a reputation a country should aspire to uphold IMO.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14166 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 12:18 am to
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Or you could just consider common sense but you'd probably overcomplicate things anyway so what's the point?

Based on your writing ability and lack of reasoning skills, it is very unlikely that you will be able to land a job with a tall-building law firm that represents defendant employers.

So you'll probably end up with a small law firm that represents plaintiffs/employees in disputes. You'll change your tune when you see how the legal process overwhelmingly favors the defendants.

And hopefully you will learn to respect the judicial system more than someone who would spout out something as inane as "judges have more important things to do than give handouts to malcontents."
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 12:26 am to
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Based on your writing ability and lack of reasoning skills, it is very unlikely that you will be able to land a job with a tall-building law firm that represents defendant employers.

So you'll probably end up with a small law firm that represents plaintiffs/employees in disputes. You'll change your tune when you see how the legal process overwhelmingly favors the defendants.

And hopefully you will learn to respect the judicial system more than someone who would spout out something as inane as "judges have more important things to do than give handouts to malcontents."




Appears you're way ahead of me in that department buddy to have a response like that
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14166 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 12:30 am to
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I was at a conference one time and a speaker made this very profound statement, “...any time you are about to make a decision, make this statement, in your head, ‘well, Your Honor, I made this particular decision because’...”

“If it’s something that a judge will laugh out of court or something that will be mocked on the 6:00 news, it’s probably a bad decision.”

That has always stuck with me.

Here's the problem with your "profound statement."

"it's not what you know that will hurt you; and it's not what you know you don't know that will hurt you — it's what you don't know you don't know that will get you into trouble every time."
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14166 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 12:35 am to
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Appears you're way ahead of me in that department buddy to have a response like that

The more you post, the more you prove my point.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:54 am to
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Virtually all employers except small companies have employment agreements with arbitration agreements.


Yeah, I am aware, because I’ve worked as a consultant and for small companies because I want my inventions to stay as my own intellectual property.

If I go work for a larger company and sign on the dotted line, it’s my choice. There is nothing involuntary about it.
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