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re: America's greatest enemy is debt--

Posted on 9/23/18 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by TigerMan79
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 7:50 pm to
I do agree with you that without the backing of gold and silver, the dollar is more vulnerable.

Globalism places the interests of the world, particularly the worlds elite, above the interests of the United States and its citizens. I guess in a way our debt falls into this equation. Foreign influence in America is much larger than most people realize. And no, I'm not talking about the Russian collusion. News, banking, and social media for example. Foreign powers have a direct influence on daily American lives and shift the narritave as they see fit.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 7:59 pm to
Respectfully, debt in and of itself is not bad.

Managable debt as a small percentage of income is not a problem.

Uncontrolled debt is.

If I carry 30k of debt, but have 100k of income, it's a non issue.

If I have 30k of income and 100k of debt, that's another story.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:00 pm to
While you are correct our debt has little to do with trade, the market demand for our debt is influenced by debt. When dollars leave the country they eventually find their way back or are held by foreign central banks. What countries often do that have large trade deficits with the USA---meaning they sell a lot more stuff to us than we do to them is buy our debt. The demand for our debt keeps prices high meaning the yields are lower and our interest cost less.

Countries that do buy more from us than we sell to them are not US debt buyers of consequence unless they have some other motivation to hold US debt instruments.

So in regards to trade--deficits do make our debt more in demand.

Our debt is a spending issue and not a tax issue. The rich pay virtually all the tax.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:01 pm to
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Respectfully, debt in and of itself is not bad.


That is correct but it is HUGE now and we see no talk of doing anything to slow its' growth.

It is a tax on the future.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:10 pm to


This chart illustrates that our debt relative to GDP is growing like crazy.
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 8:11 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:15 pm to
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I do agree with you that without the backing of gold and silver, the dollar is more vulnerable.


While I understand the gold standard and it's virtues I am not an avid gold standard guy.

We could accomplish the same thing as having gold back currency by having an enforceable balanced budget amendment. This would limit the growth of the supply of dollars making the dollar more predictable in value I think.

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:16 pm to
America's greatest enemy is the sjw leftist Democrat party.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:32 pm to
To the extent they are fed by the massive welfare state they are a great enemy of America much like the military industrial complex.

The Great Society of LBJ and the failure to pass an enforceable balanced budget amendment are the worst thing that has happened to government in America since the depression.
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 8:34 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:41 pm to
Medicare is not the cause of the nation's debt.

War.

Trillion for Iraq

2 trillion for Afghanistan

The Vietnam war started our national decline
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