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re: Alex Stein confronts armed antifa guarding drag queen story time in Denton, TX

Posted on 11/21/22 at 7:58 am to
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 7:58 am to
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No, it isn't the same argument.


But you implied it was.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 7:59 am to
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Democrats love this type of argument, especially when they're trying to push more gun control.


So now Hank's boyfriend has entered the thread, spouting nonsense in an attempt to deflect criticism from his Pedo-lover....predictable....
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:00 am to
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So you think there is no societal/moral limits on what a child can do or be exposed to if the parents agree to it?
Absent harm to the child, yes. The sticky point is how one defines “harm.”

I see absolutely no evidence that seeing a man in a dress causes any “harm” to a child. Obviously, some posters on this forum feel differently.
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So according to your argument if a parent thinks it's ok for his/her child to be exposed to an adult's genitalia then the "state" should allow it?
Nudists/naturists do so all the time, and I see that as being ABSOLUTELY none of the State’s business.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:01 am to
now that you mention it, displaced does seem to often rush in protect Aggiehank
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:02 am to
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There is absolutely no evidence of even one instance in which a child has been subjected to any sort of physical harm at one of these storytime events.


Is physical harm where you draw the line on abuse?
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:03 am to
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now that you mention it, displaced does seem to often rush in protect Aggiehank


They are either lovers trolling from Mommy's basement, or they are lunatics on the same floor of some Psych-ward.

Either way, they are proving they should NEVER be allowed around children.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:03 am to
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now that you mention it, displaced does seem to often rush in protect Aggiehank


Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:04 am to
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Nudists/naturists do so all the time, and I see that as being ABSOLUTELY none of the State’s business.


Wow, so Drag Queens and nudists are the same in your mind?

Tell me you know nothing about Drag without telling me you know nothing about Drag.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:05 am to
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The sticky point is how one defines “harm.”


No shite. Your idea of "harm" may vary greatly from society's. You initially only expressed concern about "physical" harm. So if the parents are ok with ritual animal sacrifice in the town square, you would be ok with children being exposed to that? Public hangings? As long as the children aren't being "physically harmed"?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:05 am to
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I see absolutely no evidence that seeing a man in a dress causes any “harm” to a child.


Monty Python was quite famous for showing men wearing dresses.

Drag and Monty Python may share *some* similar traits, but modern Drag IS SEXUAL IN NATURE,PERIOD, END OF STORY.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:06 am to
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So "physical harm" is the only criteria we should consider?
when one is talking about the use of the coercive power of the state to override parental choices in raising their own children, yes, I think you need some sort of objective standard (like physical harm) rather than the subjective views of one segment of society.

Is it in evitable that some children will be harmed if the State stays out of parenting? Of course. Just as it is inevitable, that some children will be harmed of parents were allowed to let the children ride bicycles without helmets or to climb trees without rope/tackle and safety nets (which I also believe should be the parents’ choice).

You think that listening to ruPaul read a story does severe lasting harm to a child. I do not. It is my view that the State should not enforce your view upon me. This really is not a complex issue.
Posted by CBLSU316
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:08 am to
Primetime 99
Posted by The Maj
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:08 am to
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I see absolutely no evidence that seeing a man in a dress causes any “harm” to a child.


Like a moth to a flame, you seem to find yourself in all the grooming and kid diddling threads don't you...
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:08 am to
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Yes, because when these creeps abuse a child, it is in a Library....in front of everyone, not afterwards behind closed doors
Again, there is no evidence of even one single instance in which this has happened.

You are interfering with parental rights to make decisions regarding their own children, out of fear of grumpkins and snarks.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:10 am to
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Wow, so Drag Queens and nudists are the same in your mind?
No, I was responding to a specific question asked by another poster about nudity.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:10 am to
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You think that listening to ruPaul read a story does severe lasting harm to a child. I do not. It is my view that the State should not enforce your view upon me. This really is not a complex issue.



So now you're a psychologist as well as the board attorney. So you think all parents have the ability to make sound/moral decisions that are best for their children? Do you think they're perhaps millions of parents who have psychological/psychiatric issues that prevent them from making sound/moral decisions that are best for their children?
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:11 am to
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when one is talking about the use of the coercive power of the state to override parental choices in raising their own children, yes, I think you need some sort of objective standard (like physical harm) rather than the subjective views of one segment of society.


Then you haven’t read the Texas family code recently. Emotional harm is all over the abuse/neglect statutes. I’m not saying a drag reading reaches that level, but I’m surprised a Texas family law attorney wouldn’t know the family code.

My concern isn’t you defending drag readings to kids, as strange as that is…it the erratic behavior in this thread you don’t usually show in other threads. You have compared taking communion and going to bible study as equally “crazy” as taking a child to be taught by a drag Queen. These are objectively wild comparisons and any rational person would be able to see that. For some reason this topic makes you irrational. Not sure why. Maybe it’s the combo of drag support and a hatred of religion?
This post was edited on 11/21/22 at 8:13 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:12 am to
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So if the parents are ok with ritual animal sacrifice in the town square, you would be ok with children being exposed to that?
You are describing Santeria. If Santeria happens to be a family’s religion, yes, that is absolutely not any of the State’s business.
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Public hangings?
No, I do not oppose public hangings. I think they might have some deterrent effect.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:15 am to
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I think they might have some deterrent effect.


Do you think Pedophilia should be a capital crime?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:15 am to
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you seem to find yourself in all the grooming and kid diddling threads don't you...
I am certainly drawn to the threads in which the underlying issue is the use of coercive state power to override individual freedoms.

For whatever reason, that issue seems to arise most often on this forum in the context of drag storytime. That really says more about you people than about me.

But I am not going to back away from the broader principle, just because this particular application makes some people uncomfortable.
This post was edited on 11/21/22 at 8:16 am
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