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re: AG Holder wants felons to vote primarily because of race

Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:12 pm to
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This practice causes recidivism and recriminalization



by not allowing ex cons and felons to vote?


fail. on many levels.
Posted by PanhandleTigah
Florida Freedom Zone
Member since May 2008
9452 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:13 pm to
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I'm sure you know this, but if you are convicted of a felony in America, you are totally screwed.
Hey, here's a thought - don't commit a felony.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:13 pm to
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For a reason


Care to expand on this point?

My point was that we punish people punitively for life for reasons that are often not worthy of such draconian sentences.

And prison sentences affect the African-American disproportionally.
Posted by PanhandleTigah
Florida Freedom Zone
Member since May 2008
9452 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:15 pm to
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My point was that we punish people punitively for life for reasons that are often not worthy of such draconian sentences. And prison sentences affect the African-American disproportionally.
Again, no one twisted their arms and told them to become felons. Actions = consequences. I realize many pansy arses in this nation have forgotten this, but I haven't.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:16 pm to
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And prison sentences affect the African-American disproportionally.
Or do African-Americans commit a disproportionate amount of crimes?
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8456 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:17 pm to
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And poor life decisions that land a mf'er in jail affect the African-American disproportionally




FIFY
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:20 pm to
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Care to expand on this point?
Can't pay the fine don't do the time.
quote:

My point was that we punish people punitively for life for reasons that are often not worthy of such draconian sentences.
Your opinion that losing your vote is draconinan.

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And prison sentences affect the African-American disproportionally.
Why is that?
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:20 pm to
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felony


Do you know what constitutes a felony nowadays?

Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Or do African-Americans commit a disproportionate amount of crimes?
They do. Doesn't change the fact that blacks are disproportionally affected. It shouldn't be a racial discussion though.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:23 pm to
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It shouldn't be a racial discussion though
I agree, but Holder is the one who brought up race.
Posted by Count Chocula
Tier 5 and proud
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:24 pm to
Hell, lets let the Gitmo terrorists vote too.
Posted by PanhandleTigah
Florida Freedom Zone
Member since May 2008
9452 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:29 pm to
[quote]Do you know what constitutes a felony nowadays?/quote]Pretty sure I do...there's murder, manslaughter, rape, burglary/robbery, drug possession/trafficking, assault and battery, extortion, etc. What have I missed Ole Wise One?
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40361 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:29 pm to
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Do you know what constitutes a felony nowadays?



you still have to try to get a felony.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:35 pm to
DON'T COMMIT AND GET FOUND GUILTY OF A CRIME. Then you will not be restricted in your voting ability at election time. Felons deserve every bit of punishment meted out to them for being criminals and if it includes losing the "right" so be it.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:38 pm to
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Posted by Message PanhandleTigah AG Holder wants felons to vote primarily because of race [quote]Do you know what constitutes a felony nowadays?/quote]Pretty sure I do...there's murder, manslaughter, rape, burglary/robbery, drug possession/trafficking, assault and battery, extortion, etc. What have I missed Ole Wise One?


Correct. And one of those is not like the other.

And that one constitutes over a third of all felony convictions.


But, we're getting off topic and while I disagree w Holder, it's a conversation that America needs.

Also, it's humorous that a board that is typically so "anti-govt" and "anti-cop" is so pro punishment.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:39 pm to
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Also, it's humorous that a board that is typically so "anti-govt" and "anti-cop" is so pro punishment.
Application of law what a concept, I guess that is hypocritical in your view.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:41 pm to
See my sig homie.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90771 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:42 pm to
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See my sig homie.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26954 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:42 pm to
If they are Dems they can vote after they're dead.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:44 pm to
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"anti-govt"
I don't know anyone who is anti-government. I know many who prefer a smaller limited federal government.

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anti-cop
I don't know anyone who is anti-cop collectively. I know many who are frustrated with the many TV stereotypical bad cops and those with a chip on their shoulder.
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