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re: African Migrants at Texas Border tested for Ebola
Posted on 4/21/19 at 8:05 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 4/21/19 at 8:05 am to NC_Tigah
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Want to enlighten the group on risks of viral epidemics in adequately vaccinated populations?
These idiots a week or two ago were claiming migrants were causing the measles epidemic. Pay attention.
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Posted on 4/21/19 at 8:07 am to LSUbest
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Looks like you need a lot of fact-checking.
Your article is from 2016. The information you were provided is from 2019.
Keep up.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 8:32 am to BamaAtl
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when they don't have any counterfactuals.
quote:So you retract your agreement with Frieden's initially imbecilic "Any Hospital" statement. You're 5 yrs late to the party.
but I wouldn't want to try my luck in some bumfrick shitty hospital if I had a choice
quote:No you didn't. If you claim you did, you're either lying, ignorant, or badly misinformed.
I saw the scenario where they examined a febrile patient who had recently traveled from West Africa in the midst of a hemorrhagic fever epidemic...and sent him home.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 8:33 am to BamaAtl
quote:Want to enlighten the group on risks of viral epidemics in adequately vaccinated populations?
These idiots a week or two ago were claiming migrants were causing the measles epidemic. Pay attention.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 8:44 am to BamaAtl
quote:which is not erring on the side of caution. you are all over the place and you haven't addressed even a quarter of my responses to your problematic statements
It's possible that every molecule in your body independently jumps 5 feet to the left in coordination at any time, but it's not likely
Posted on 4/21/19 at 8:50 am to Jake_LaMotta
How do African migrants arrive at our southern border. That is a very long walk!
Posted on 4/21/19 at 8:53 am to BamaAtl
quote:the first problem with this statement is that you have no idea what the likelihood is. these people are variables meaning, we have no idea what they are bringing in illegally. second, this statement is not indicative of erring on the side of caution.
It's possible that every molecule in your body independently jumps 5 feet to the left in coordination at any time, but it's not likely
seriously, you are all over the place
Posted on 4/21/19 at 9:10 am to upgrayedd
quote:
one of the sh*^^iest posters on this site
Running a distant second to the infamous Cpt. Bengal.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 9:15 am to BamaAtl
quote:you don't know that. plus given the risk, we should err on the side of caution, right? because you're admitting it's possible.
Through the southern border? No risk
quote:link?
Terrible hospital.
quote:i find it interesting that you think you know the situation well enough that you can make these broad, definitive statements.
They are so equipped and trained (even moreso now), but they had significant failings
quote:in a perfect world, right? i'm sure the dallas hospital was saying the same thing according to your assessment of them.
By the time the viral load is high enough that you're capable of spreading it through sneezes, you're incapacitated and in an isolation room
so again, you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. you're accusing the hospital of being inadequate (without being an insider yourself) yet you want to say that there's no way an outbreak can happen. which is it? is this situation complex or are we good?
Posted on 4/21/19 at 9:21 am to BamaAtl
quote:wait, someone is testing EVERY illegal that comes across the border? link?
The sheer amount of immigration with no epidemics attributed to them directly refutes that
Posted on 4/21/19 at 9:24 am to BamaAtl
quote:your position on this matter is confused at best. you keep flipping every time i respond to you
I'm also happy to keep pointing out your failures in this area as long as it takes
Posted on 4/21/19 at 9:29 am to BamaAtl
quote:"technically" being the key word, right? so do all hospitals operate perfectly or do we have some dallas pres facilities out there? how many? what would the effect be? how many illegals can the imperfect system take before things start to snowball?
technically every ICU in the country has an airborne isolation room that can handle a case of active TB
quote:but you don't work there every day. you are not an "insider" because of one visit and some second hand knowledge. you don't know how well they would operate if the system increasingly became strained. you are just speculating and acting like you know something definitive. also, you are making my point for me, that the system is imperfect and the illegals are walking variables that are straining the system
But I've met their ID faculty, and we've talked about their leadership
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:13 am to bfniii
quote:He knows little more about it now than he did when he made the same idiotic statements prior to the Dallas outbreak. He was wrong then. He is wrong now.
i find it interesting that you think you know the situation well enough that you can make these broad, definitive statements.
quote:Oh he knows damn good and well there is a risk.
Through the southern border? No risk
you don't know that.
It is identical to his 2014 denials. In 2014 he similarly denied there was any risk. Yet in 2014, we had Dallas outbreak, and unbelievably BA still denies there was any risk, DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT HAPPENED.
It's like playing poker and claiming there is no risk of a player having a flush, even after the player has laid his cards down winning the pot with his flush. BamaAtl is dishonest as hell here. It is one thing to be dishonest in dealing with political issues. It sucks, but it's common nonetheless.
However, when a healthcare provider lies not just about politics, but about healthcare issues, it raises all sorts of antennas. Namely, does he lie to his patients or other providers in the workplace.
quote:In 2014, the CDC supported taking an entire airliner offline, scared hell out of >130 passengers and crew, supported shutting down a train, supported closing a bowling alley, etc. when minimally symptomatic, fully active, ambulatory folks were in those spaces and later found to have Ebola. Why would they do that, given BA's claim? In fact, someone who is ebola infected, and coughing/sneezing with coincident blood for any reason in their respiratory tract, can spread the disease long before they are "incapacitated and in an isolation room". BamaAtl knows that. So does the CDC. That is why the CDC acted as it did in 2014.
By the time the viral load is high enough that you're capable of spreading it through sneezes, you're incapacitated and in an isolation room
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 10:14 am
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:28 am to BamaAtl
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Hemorrhagic fevers aren't great at propagating through rich countries with well-developed health and surveillance systems. They're too easy to spot, too easy to quarantine, and survivors have some measure of lifetime immunity. They aren't airborne, which helps immensely.
What a dimwit you are
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