re: African Migrants at Texas Border tested for Ebola

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EVD is a disease, not a virus.

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Common abbreviation for both - no need to confuse the laypeople like yourself.

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if EV is present in respiratory secretions and the host sneezes, thousands perhaps millions of viral particles are sent airborne for up to 20 ft. Considering Ebola infection (EVD) requires as few as 10 viri, RT-to-RT transmission without direct person to person contact is an obvious possibility.

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Possible, but not likely, and not really an issue until a person's viral load is so high that they're are symptomatic and in containment. You just don't have the necessary viral loads and continue walking around, and in the US when you present you get quarantined.

Again, since you've lost the point, we're talking about why it's an extremely unlikely possibility that we would have an epidemic of this virus in the US or any wealthy country with a developed healthcare system and surveillance infrastructure.

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"airborne virus" vs "nonairborne virus" designations.

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Because there are distinct differences between something considered airborne and something considered droplet transmission, and those are important when you're discussing (as we were) the likelihood of a widespread epidemic due to a given pathogen.

I know this is hard for you, since it's nowhere near your field, but we had this same argument in 2014. You were wrong then, and you're still wrong now.

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but we had this same argument in 2014. You were wrong then, and you're still wrong now.

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Let's see; Your points were:
(1) There was no risk of migrants bringing Ebola to the US -- You were wrong.
(2) Any hospital capable of handling infectious disease could safely manage an Ebola patient -- You were wrong.
(3) The virus cannot be transmitted through the air via coughing/sneezing to others in the area -- You were wrong.
(4) You were a big supporter of Tom Frieden who made the imbecilic "Any US hospital could handle Ebola" statement, who subsequently oversaw an entire airliner removed from service because had transported an afebrile early stage Ebola victim, who fought against quarantining Ebola workers one of whom was carrying the virus and caused significant expense and distress in NYC by travelling all over the place until he became sick enough to be hospitalized, who blamed Dallas RNs for contracting Ebola, and who now faces sexual predator charges -- He was an imbecile. You thought he was great. -- You were wrong.
(5) Now you claim that if the Ebola virus evolved to a more deadly strain which concomitantly manifested increased respiratory contagiousness prior to development of overt symptoms, that it would be less likely to spread. -- Obviously you are wrong about that as well. Fortunately no such strain has developed, but hypothetically it could. You dismissed that possibility in addressing another poster's hypothetical. -- You are wrong.

I could go on, but the larger point is you continue to intermingle political biases with scientific fact creating a hodgepodge of fictional nonsense. As you attempt to infuse this forum with your bullshite, I'll happily continue to point out where You Are Wrong.

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1) There was no risk of migrants bringing Ebola to the US

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This is correct - it's highly unlikely that they would enter the country with it, and even more unlikely that it would spark some widespread epidemic. The reasons have been explained to you in this thread.

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Any hospital capable of handling infectious disease could safely manage an Ebola patient

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This is correct. The fact that one Dallas hospital was incompetent really doesn't speak to the overall quality of most hospitals. While your community hospital may not be up to the task, any decent hospital has the type of precautions and ppe in place to theoretically care for patients.

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The virus cannot be transmitted through the air via coughing/sneezing to others in the area

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An unlikely mode of transmission, and does not make the virus airborne. The error you made )and continue to make despite being corrected) was in mislabeling ebola as having an 'airborne' route of transmission. This just is not true.

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Tom Frieden

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Deserved all of the accolades he amassed for his handling of ebola in 2014. Smart guy!

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if the Ebola virus evolved to a more deadly strain which concomitantly manifested increased respiratory contagiousness prior to development of overt symptoms, that it would be less likely to spread

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Not what I claimed. I claimed it's unlikely for a virus to jump modes of transmission (because it is - that's really basic stuff and shows your lack of knowledge here that you think it's likely).

Additionally, I pointed out that hemorrhagic fevers would have decreasing returns from becoming more virulent in the sense that they had faster mortality among the infected. That's also a pretty well-known concept when discussing the ability of these viruses to spread and cause widespread outbreaks.

The problem, as in 2014, is that you have a very very shallow understanding of these issues and it leads you into misunderstanding the more complete picture. You really should leave this to the experts, we're more than happy to save your arse like we did then.

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Those people are bringing in who knows what

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yep. vegas woman superbug

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You really should leave this to the experts, we're more than happy to save your arse like we did then.

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You didn't, white and Asian men did, you just enjoy taking the credit....

BTW coward, I asked you a question: How many illegals/refugees/invaders will be staying at your home this year?

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poor marginalized underserved population

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who are these people? can you name some?

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recent outbreaks have been contraindicative of having a source pertaining to immigration

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you're not seriously arguing against the notion that illegals could bring some illness with them are you? of course they can and are. just because "recent testing" hasn't traced something back to an illegal doesn't mean it's not happening or won't. absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence

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Those people are bringing in who knows what
yep. vegas woman superbug

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The case involved a woman who had spent considerable time in India, where multi-drug-resistant bacteria are more common than they are in the US.

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It was a US citizen who visited family in India. It was not related to immigration at the southern border. Obviously.

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No it is not correct and there are a grand total of four facilities in this country that are set up to safely handle and treat Ebola patients...

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The 4 SCD units were set up to handle anything, not just hemorrhagic fever. Since 2014, NETEC has helped to train thousands of front-line HCW on proper procedures.

But that's not to say that those trained were incapable of caring for patients with EVD prior to this training. It's more of a refresher, emphasizing the specific points at which most HCW exposures occur (gowning and de-gowning).

In terms of medical equipment, any ICU in the country has the necessary equipment to handle a patient with hemorrhagic fever. THere's nothing special in our ebola unit , it's just concentrated and has extra layers upon layers of protection.

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Your theoretical bullshite is what gets people killed...

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Technically, it's what kept every American alive in 2014 who was infected with ebola and returned to the US. You're welcome.

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white and Asian men did

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That's not even the majority of the makeup of our SCD team - either now in 2014.

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you're not seriously arguing against the notion that illegals could bring some illness with them are you?

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No, I'm arguing that it's unlikely that what they bring in would be the spark for some widespread epidemic.

Because it's just not a likely scenario, and it's not what we've seen for any recent epidemic.