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re: Abortion hypothetical
Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:47 pm to BoneDrownedDave
Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:47 pm to BoneDrownedDave
quote:
A 10- or 11-year-old girl is raped and impregnated by a male relative. Should she be expected to carry that baby for 9 months, with all of the potential complications, all the while knowing that she's about to give birth to an inbred child with an undetermined number of fingers and toes?
Yes. Next question.
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:49 pm to imjustafatkid
Gross.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:49 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Where?
quote:
A 10- or 11-year-old girl is raped
You're finally right about something. You're welcome!
That pointed out, it doesn't change much, don't you agree?
Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:50 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Gross.
Agreed. Life sucks. It's terrible that someone would do something so awful to someone so young. Aborting the child is equally as terrible.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:52 pm to Jake_LaMotta
quote:OP seems to be asking a philosophical question, rather than a legal one.
Abortion is Legal.
We must ask and answer the philosphical questions FIRST, in order to determine what the LEGAL questions SHOULD BE.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:53 pm to BoneDrownedDave
quote:
A 10- or 11-year-old girl is raped and impregnated by a male relative. Should she be expected to carry that baby for 9 months, with all of the potential complications, all the while knowing that she's about to give birth to an inbred child with an undetermined number of fingers and toes?
To remain consistent most Christians who are steadfast against abortion would say we live in a fallen world where evil can manifest itself in a myriad of ways but because an evil circumstance occurs does not mean you confront or remedy the evil with an act of greater evil.
This unfortunate example of the young rape victim that you bring into discussion is a common one from the pro choice/murder progressives and probably accounts for less than 1% of unwanted pregnancies. The obvious answer is to bring the baby to term if the young girl is healthy enough to carry the child. If the family does not want the child there are hundreds of thousand of young married couples looking for the blessing of a child in their homes.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:54 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Do you have data to support your claims?
There are about 1.1 million abortions a year in the US. About 1-2% are late term.
What does your data show for the number of pregnant 10-11 year olds?
Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:55 pm to Loserman
quote:True, but the vast majority of those marriages take place in countries which we have defined on this forum as being “shitholes.“ Correlation? Causation?
20%+ of all marriages in the world are 2nd cousin or closer.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 12:56 pm to Dale51
quote:No.
A healthy woman becomes pregnant by her boyfriend.
At 9 months, all indications are that it is a healthy baby.
The woman decides that being a mother would cramp her style.
Are you O.K. with her demanding the baby be killed?
And you would get the same answer from a very large supermajority of folks who support abortion rights in some form.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 1:02 pm to Spasweezy
quote:Do you KNOW any women? I tend to think not.
The only reason late term abortions are an outlier are because the law prohibits them. Your comparison of the two scenarios is flawed logic.
If you do, how many of them are going to wait nine months intentionally, allowing themselves to get fat, their butts to get big, their nipples to grow to the size of a dinner plate, theirmskin to be marred with stretch marks, and the thousands of other problems that come with allowing pregnancy to proceed to that point?
Late-term abortion will ALAWAYS be an outlier, as long as women are vain. In other words, forever.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 1:04 pm to Dale51
quote:
There are about 1.1 million abortions a year in the US. About 1-2% are late term.
Where did you get those data?
quote:
What does your data show for the number of pregnant 10-11 year olds?
This is your data, not mine. What do those data show?
Posted on 4/2/19 at 1:05 pm to Dale51
quote:
You're finally right about something. You're welcome!
That pointed out, it doesn't change much, don't you agree?
Finally? You're still looking for the first occurrence of me being wrong.
And no, it doesn't change a whole lot. But let's try to be accurate.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 1:07 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:
Aborting the child is equally as terrible.
I don't agree with that. Killing a zygote, to me, is much less terrible than what the OP describes.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 1:28 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
20%+ of all marriages in the world are 2nd cousin or closer.
quote:
True, but the vast majority of those marriages take place in countries which we have defined on this forum as being “shitholes.“ Correlation? Causation?
The vast majority of them happen in India and China due to their overwhelmingly high populations.
But even in the West 2nd Cousin Marriage is between 1 to 10% depending on the Country.
In the US it is slightly below 1%
Africa and the Middle East is riddled with it and the rates are as high as 50%
Posted on 4/2/19 at 1:41 pm to BoneDrownedDave
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This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 4/2/19 at 1:44 pm to geauxtigersgirl
quote:
And I would too if abortion wasn't killing an innocent baby.
Well, then you're in luck...
Posted on 4/2/19 at 1:47 pm to BoneDrownedDave
Hypothetical:
If you were on fire, I would indeed urinate on you.
Happy happy joy joy.
If you were on fire, I would indeed urinate on you.
Happy happy joy joy.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 1:50 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Well, then you're in luck...
So one of the following is true.
A) Abortion Doesn't Kill.
B) It's not a baby.
C) The baby isn't innocent.
Which of those is true?
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 4/2/19 at 1:51 pm to SSpaniel
The statement in totality is not correct. You're a smart guy. I'm sure you can figure out why.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 1:56 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
I don't agree with that. Killing a zygote, to me, is much less terrible than what the OP describes.
I was being generous. Killing is worse.
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