- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Aborting Down syndrome babies
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:10 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:10 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
So you don't concede. Why bring up rape and incest, then? Why talk about the edge cases when the vast, vast majority of abortions are performed out of convenience?
Bingo.
2
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:11 pm to TbirdSpur2010
why talk about late-term abortion at all then? it's all the rage with conservatives, but it would be classified as an "edge issue" according to you.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:13 pm to Usafgiles
quote:
why talk about late-term abortion at all then?
Define "late-term."
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:15 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Let me put any doubt to rest on where I stand when it comes to abortion. The only time it’s acceptable is when the life of the mother is in danger. Period. A woman should not be given a death sentence for being pregnant.
As for rape and incest, I’m truly sorry for the victim. And I hope she gets all help available. But it’s not the baby’s fault. You can’t punish an innocent child for the crime of someone else. And killing that unborn child will not serve justice to anyone. Once the child is born, they can be put up for adoption. There are thousands of desperate couples wanting to adopt babies and giving them a loving home.
As for rape and incest, I’m truly sorry for the victim. And I hope she gets all help available. But it’s not the baby’s fault. You can’t punish an innocent child for the crime of someone else. And killing that unborn child will not serve justice to anyone. Once the child is born, they can be put up for adoption. There are thousands of desperate couples wanting to adopt babies and giving them a loving home.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:17 pm to Darth_Vader
Agreed on both counts 
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:17 pm to TbirdSpur2010
approaching the 27 week mark or 3rd trimester
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:18 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
How anyone can claim they have the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness while denying that same right to others?
Conversely, by you telling a woman she can't have an abortion, aren't you restricting her pursuit of happiness?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:18 pm to Usafgiles
I have a lot of energy on this subject having lived it...
D1 and D2, were their mother's and my fourth and fifth pregnancies...
pregnancy 1 was a miscarriage
pregnancy 2 was a tragedy...non-life compatible (not going to put the gory details here-neural tube defect) induced at 32 weeks when we found out...going further along would have endangered her mother...she lived for 17 minutes...
you want to know pain...place the casket with your child in the family grave...
pregnancy 3 was worse than 2 (multiple neural tube defects)...and would have endangered her mother even more...
D1 and D2, we were fortunate enough to get into a study where an experimental pre-natal vitamin supplement with a lot of folic acid was used...no problems with either pregnancy...
the whole abortion issue is much more grey than black or white...and shite does happen in pregnancy, not every pregnancy will produce a perfect child...or even a life compatible one...
this is a choice that needs to be left to the individual parents...
D1 and D2, were their mother's and my fourth and fifth pregnancies...
pregnancy 1 was a miscarriage
pregnancy 2 was a tragedy...non-life compatible (not going to put the gory details here-neural tube defect) induced at 32 weeks when we found out...going further along would have endangered her mother...she lived for 17 minutes...
you want to know pain...place the casket with your child in the family grave...
pregnancy 3 was worse than 2 (multiple neural tube defects)...and would have endangered her mother even more...
D1 and D2, we were fortunate enough to get into a study where an experimental pre-natal vitamin supplement with a lot of folic acid was used...no problems with either pregnancy...
the whole abortion issue is much more grey than black or white...and shite does happen in pregnancy, not every pregnancy will produce a perfect child...or even a life compatible one...
this is a choice that needs to be left to the individual parents...
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:18 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
As for rape and incest, I’m truly sorry for the victim. And I hope she gets all help available. But it’s not the baby’s fault. You can’t punish an innocent child for the crime of someone else. And killing that unborn child will not serve justice to anyone. Once the child is born, they can be put up for adoption. There are thousands of desperate couples wanting to adopt babies and giving them a loving home.
I can't disagree with your more.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:19 pm to vl100butch
quote:
this is a choice that needs to be left to the individual parents...
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:20 pm to Usafgiles
quote:
As for rape and incest, I’m truly sorry for the victim. And I hope she gets all help available. But it’s not the baby’s fault. You can’t punish an innocent child for the crime of someone else. And killing that unborn child will not serve justice to anyone. Once the child is born, they can be put up for adoption. There are thousands of desperate couples wanting to adopt babies and giving them a loving home.
I can't disagree with your more.
IMO emergency contraception should be standard in such situations
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:21 pm to Dignan
quote:
Conversely, by you telling a woman she can't have an abortion, aren't you restricting her pursuit of happiness?
A person’s right to happiness does not extend to them being able to deny the right to life of someone else. What if I claimed my right to happiness said I could murder you and your family. Since that makes me “happy”, do I have the right to deny you the right to life? Absolutely not. Again, I can’t claim a God given right while on the other hand denying that same right to others.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:22 pm to Usafgiles
Yeah that's not "all the rage" with conservatives, sorry. Swing and a miss. Nice deflection attempt.
As distasteful as it is to me, I'm willing to cede ground in the abortion debate in cases of imminent existential peril to the mother, or rape/incest.
The rest of the abortions? Hell no.
As distasteful as it is to me, I'm willing to cede ground in the abortion debate in cases of imminent existential peril to the mother, or rape/incest.
The rest of the abortions? Hell no.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:23 pm to vl100butch
Butch,
That was very well written and I have nothing but empathy for what you have been through.
That was very well written and I have nothing but empathy for what you have been through.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:24 pm to Usafgiles
quote:
I can't disagree with your more.
So:
1.) It's the baby's fault
2.) You can execute a child for someone else's crimes
3.) That child's death serves justice
Which of those three are you down with?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:25 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:
Yeah that's not "all the rage" with conservatives, sorry. Swing and a miss. Nice deflection attempt.
As distasteful as it is to me, I'm willing to cede ground in the abortion debate in cases of imminent existential peril to the mother, or rape/incest.
The rest of the abortions? Hell no.
what if the child is NOT life compatible?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:25 pm to Usafgiles
quote:
can't disagree with your more.
Once again I’ll ask for anything to support your position on this matter.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:26 pm to TbirdSpur2010
It's just something we are never going to agree on.
On a personal level I can't see my wife and I ever making that decision, but I also don't feel like it's our decision to make it for other people.
On a personal level I can't see my wife and I ever making that decision, but I also don't feel like it's our decision to make it for other people.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:26 pm to vl100butch
quote:
what if the child is NOT life compatible?
Please define.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:28 pm to Usafgiles
quote:
On a personal level I can't see my wife and I ever making that decision, but I also don't feel like it's our decision to make it for other people.
We're definitely at an impasse there. When it comes to life/death of an innocent, damn straight Imma make as much noise as I can to protect that life.
Page 14 of 17
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News