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Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:45 pm to CelticDog
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and you know this how?
By the amount of statistical and historical anomalies that accompanied the suspicious and confusing way the election proceeded in a manner than has never happened before perhaps?
The way that every question of its authenticity and security is not met with confident statements of “nothing to hide because it was the most secure election ever” but with hundreds of lawyers and media fighting it every step of the way perhaps?
Because people who saw how it went down in every corner of the globe see the same logical issues with all of it perhaps?
You’ll say none of that proves anything and you’re right. However, at a certain point, when the husband gets mad at the wife for reasonable suspicions of infidelity, you can bet your life he’s cheating and be right 90%+ of the time.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:55 pm to thotpocket
Society breakdown.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:59 pm to ShoeBang
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By the amount of statistical and historical anomalies
I mean it's data. There's always gonna be weird and interesting things. Trends that start and end. Etc. We really haven't had enough elections to even know what is significant or not our sample size is pretty small.
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The way that every question of its authenticity and security is not met with confident statements of “nothing to hide because it was the most secure election ever” but with hundreds of lawyers and media fighting it every step of the way perhaps?
Because the right wing fringe is using the various investigations as cover to spread bullshite. How st this point for you take em seriously after all the baseless accusations made and failure to deliver evidence credibly? It's been all promises but no delivery for almost s year now of sure fire proof that evaporated.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:00 pm to CelticDog
No red flags were raised when several big cities in swing states all stopped vote counting for extremely dubious and false reasons, kicking everyone out that monitors? Then, a few hours later we find out those people that stayed didn’t stop voting and the votes came in almost 100% for Biden. No. Nothing at all wrong with that. It’s just the first time in history voting stopped, and it happened almost simultaneously in like 5 swing states.
How fricking stupid are you? How much money are you getting in government aid? Are you posting from an Obama phone?
How fricking stupid are you? How much money are you getting in government aid? Are you posting from an Obama phone?
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:02 pm to oklahogjr
Massive cheating happened. You know it deep down, so stfu. Everyone all over the world believes this, except once again, the American Marxists
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:04 pm to ShinerHorns
Purdy sure your Governor just made life that is here, a problem. In the womb, all good homie. LOL, what a fricking loser.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:15 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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Everyone all over the world believes this, except once again, the American Marxists
no one important believes it.
not mcconnell.
not pence
you're out of touch.
whole world? what a joke.
maybe 50% of republicans
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:18 pm to CelticDog
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not mcconnell. not pence
Posted on 9/11/21 at 12:17 am to PollyDawg
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Speaking of propaganda, you seriously need a new talking point.
What is it that was my old talking point?
Posted on 9/11/21 at 12:25 am to oklahogjr
" It's been all promises but no delivery for almost s year now of sure fire proof that evaporated."
I guess I have to ask. What is "sure fire proof" for you?
I guess I have to ask. What is "sure fire proof" for you?
Posted on 9/11/21 at 12:40 am to 10thyrsr
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guess I have to ask. What is "sure fire proof" for you?
For example if Mike lindell actually had pcaps. That could be verified by cyber security experts.
What im looking for in a case of fraud is for a walkthrough of who did it, what they did, explanation of how it affected the election ,with supporting data/evidence that can be reviewed independently to support the claim.
Nothing has hit that standard. There have been claims but then the data or evidence fell apart either before arrival or upon review. There are lots of claims but walk me end to end through one of the claims and you eventually get to a point where it falls apart.
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Posted on 9/11/21 at 1:05 am to oklahogjr
"What im looking for in a case of fraud is for a walkthrough of who did it, what they did, explanation of how it affected the election ,with supporting data/evidence that can be reviewed independently to support the claim."
Fair enough. I agree that nothing presented has met that standard.
When you say "reviewed independently" that is a difficult hurdle. Who is independent? There isn't some neutral organization that reviews these things.So we should probably remove that from the list.
"Who did it". Why is this important to prove malfeasance? It does matter who did it from a retribution perspective, but not from a "proof of action" standard. So we can remove that.
So we are left with "what they did", "how it affected the election" and "With supporting data/evidence"
I think there are numerous claims out there that meet this criteria.
Fair enough. I agree that nothing presented has met that standard.
When you say "reviewed independently" that is a difficult hurdle. Who is independent? There isn't some neutral organization that reviews these things.So we should probably remove that from the list.
"Who did it". Why is this important to prove malfeasance? It does matter who did it from a retribution perspective, but not from a "proof of action" standard. So we can remove that.
So we are left with "what they did", "how it affected the election" and "With supporting data/evidence"
I think there are numerous claims out there that meet this criteria.
Posted on 9/11/21 at 1:13 am to 10thyrsr
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When you say "reviewed independently" that is a difficult hurdle. Who is independent? There isn't some neutral organization that reviews these things.So we should probably remove that from the list.
So this is an area where mike lindell did well. He had opposition there prepared to review his pcap data. There were plenty of people willing to provide their expertise and verify real data evidence.
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Who did it". Why is this important to prove malfeasance? It does matter who did it from a retribution perspective, but not from a "proof of action" standard. So we can remove that.
I don't need s name and serial number but if we truly find fraud there will be evidence of someone's involvement.
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So we are left with "what they did", "how it affected the election" and "With supporting data/evidence"
I think there are numerous claims out there that meet this criteria.
There are not though. Pick one and let's review.
Posted on 9/11/21 at 1:55 am to Delta9
Could I propose a compromise position on this? It’s true the Dems used the covid thing to loosen voting procedures to artificially boost turnout. Unsolicited mail ballots along with signature only verification played a major role. Is that fraud? I don’t know, but I can see why Reps, who had a historically popular incumbent, would be upset that those procedural changes helped oust their president. I think Mitch hit on this during his floor speeches during the certification debate when he argued for rolling back the covid changes to voting procedures. But other than that, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and time and time again, the proponents of this egregious fraud story have failed to produce that extraordinary evidence. It’s just not enough to make huge inferential leaps when you’re challenging the foundation of our democracy. You have to deliver the goods.
Posted on 9/11/21 at 9:35 am to CelticDog
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no one important believes it.
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mcconnell
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pence
Oh FFS
Posted on 9/11/21 at 9:37 am to oklahogjr
Look, we get it. You are doing your part, and whatever minuscule way you can to be complicit in the greatest crime committed in our nation's history. I suppose we should congratulate you for being all in? You're the one that has to go to sleep at night, knowing you spew intellectual dishonesty every time you touch a keyboard on this website.
Posted on 9/11/21 at 9:39 am to oklahogjr
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I don't need s name and serial number but if we truly find fraud there will be evidence of someone's involvement.
Posted on 9/11/21 at 9:44 am to CelticDog
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help us understand.
That's the problem, you can't understand, nor do you care to understand.
Anyone, with ANY intelligence, can examine the data, and easily see the FRAUD....
If you are so confident there was no FRAUD, prove it!
But you can't, so you won't....that is all.
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