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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin

Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:14 pm to
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And then the 8 people that survived all fricked each other and created all humans today


Which explains why Alabama absolutely loves the Biblical fantasy.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:15 pm to
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The fact that most won’t admit to this exposes the unhealthy effect of peer pressure on scientific discourse.”


Scientist answer: it's inferred
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:17 pm to
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Biblical fantasy.


Bottlenecks aren't fantasy, though...
Even more reason for bammers to love it
Posted by ZappBrannigan
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:19 pm to
Most importantly, carbon based implies we can still frick it.

One day my great great great great great great great grandson will plant his pole into a three titted 4 orificed hot Technicolored space babe.

Pride of humanity that.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:23 pm to
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Will anyone ever be able to create life?


LINK
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:31 pm to
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Well the Mars rover went on walk about and I don't think we saw anything jumping around in front of it trying to figure out what it was.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:32 pm to
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the Biblical fantasy.
Proof?
Posted by blackrose890
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:43 pm to
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Now we have full understanding of these things, and yet macroevolution is still perplexing. No one has ever seen one creature evolve into something else, nor will they.


Umm.... Kent, is that you?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:47 pm to
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Proof?


Proof that The Last Jedi isn't a Mormon account of history?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:48 pm to
Though I was looking forward to challenging CivilTiger and his microevolution with reptilian genome characteristics of the platypus.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:54 pm to
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Proof that The Last Jedi isn't a Mormon account of history?
When you make a definitive statement i.e., "the Biblical fantasy" it's up to you to prove your assertion. Get as cute as you want with questions of faith. But you are not entitled to your own set of facts. Of course there is no present dispositive regarding creation. Your assertions of God being "fantasy" notwithstanding.
Posted by blackrose890
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:54 pm to
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Though I was looking forward to challenging CivilTiger and his microevolution with reptilian genome characteristics of the platypus


Is he completely unaware of what Monotremes are?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:55 pm to
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Monotremes
They don't look like reptiles tho
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:56 pm to
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When you make a definitive statement


It's a good thing I didn't do that.

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But you are not entitled to your own set of facts. 


Oh, but I am. That's why you're still able to have your childhood fantasy as an adult. It's great, isn't it?

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Your assertions of God being "fantasy" notwithstanding.


That isn't the claim that I made.
Posted by blackrose890
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:59 pm to
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When you make a definitive statement i.e., "the Biblical fantasy" it's up to you to prove your assertion. Get as cute as you want with questions of faith. But you are not entitled to your own set of facts. Of course there is no present dispositive regarding creation. Your assertions of God being "fantasy" notwithstanding.


The (valid) positive evidence also doesn't exist for a magical creation (I don't have a better description) either, rather there is a point where we cannot currently know what has happened. Could it be that the universe was put forward by the mechanism of the Big Bang and that is God? possible, but given that we explanations for other biblical phenomena and have dispositive evidence for others, it would almost seem to be an onus probandi to declare that anyone must disprove creation.

Edit: at this point both communities need to step back and find positive evidence for each of their models and examine them. Religion and science have the tendency to jump to name calling for no reason.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 5:02 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 5:00 pm to
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It's a good thing I didn't do that.
"the Biblical fantasy" says otherwise.

Again, I have no problem calling anyone to question if they push God of the gaps as fact. But the reverse stands to reason as well. We don't know what we don't know. Presingularity pretexts rest firmly in that realm.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 5:02 pm to
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"the Biblical fantasy" says otherwise.


No it doesn't.

I know that you know the difference between a comment and an assertion.

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Again, I have no problem calling anyone to question if they push God of the gaps as fact.


Then I suggest that you spend your time doing that. You'll have a much larger audience on this board.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 5:03 pm to
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The (valid) positive evidence also doesn't exist for a magical creation
The (valid) positive evidence also doesn't exist for its antithesis. In science regarding origin of matter, the (valid) positive evidence doesn't exist. . . . at all,
Posted by blackrose890
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 5:04 pm to
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They don't look like reptiles tho


I love it when people can't look past phenotypes
Posted by blackrose890
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 5:05 pm to
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The (valid) positive evidence also doesn't exist for its antithesis. In science regarding origin of matter, the (valid) positive evidence doesn't exist. . . . at all,


We don't disagree, that's why my edit included my position which is everyone pullback and attempt to research the knowledge gaps and avoid putting labels on things we are not currently able to understand.
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